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  • Mark_in_Pasadena
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 2035

    Not sure if this has been posted here yet

    R.I.P.

    (CBS) RIVERSIDE, Calif. A 24-year-old Riverside man getting ready to shoot targets at a shooting range Friday was fatally wounded when he apparently shot himself in the head, authorities said.

    The man, whose name was being withheld pending notification of his family, was at the Magnum Indoor Public Shooting Range at 12391 Sampson Ave. around 10:15 a.m. when the incident occurred, according to Riverside police Lt. Paul Villanueva.

    The victim had been on the range six minutes before the shooting and there was no evidence of anything suspicious, Villanueva said.

    "The Magnum range has surveillance cameras positioned inside the firing line," Villanueva said. "A surveillance video tape of the incident showed the deceased loading a handgun and inadvertently shooting himself."

    According to Villanueva, the man died of a single gunshot to the head.

    There was at least one clerk and one other customer in the facility at the time of the incident, authorities said.

    "The initial police investigation has determined that this man's death was caused by accident," Villanueva said. "However, detectives are continuing their interviews and investigation."
  • #2
    Steyr_223
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2002
    • 9480

    Wow..Sad..RIP

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    • #3
      MedSpec65
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 634

      Stay safe. Follow your procedures. Don't be in a hurry.
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      • #4
        Josh3239
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 9191

        When ever I hear stories like this I can't help but wonder, what was he doing that needed to have a gun (loaded no less) pointed at one's self?

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        • #5
          Socal858
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 2177

          wow. just wow.

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          • #6
            Maddog5150
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2006
            • 10526

            Wow. Thats the indoor range i wont go to anymore even though its only a few miles from where i live. its always full of gang bangers or re-re's there. Last time i went I got swept so many times I just decided to leave rather than shoot back at someone over an accident. I spotted a customer there and he was complaining that his laser didnt work right. He asked if i could take a look at it and i reluctantly complied. He then pulls it up and points it at his buddies back who is in the lane shooting. I pushed the gun down right away and his response was, "what? its not like its loaded or anything." I grab the gun and cleared it and a round popped out of the chamber. I just shook my head, grabbed my gear and continued out the door.
            I feel sorry for the poor sap to capped himself but seriously people. Its one less in the gene pool that lacked common sense. The riverside magnum range is ran by people who dont give a **** or control the range. They just take your money and let you into the war zone.
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            • #7
              ColdSteel
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 1879

              Darwin at work.. Jesus Christ.. How many times do you have to be told "Do not point guns at yourself or other people." Maybe he didn't get the memo.
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              • #8
                oaklander
                Banned
                • May 2006
                • 11095

                Three things would have to go wrong for this to happen:
                1. The gun would have to be loaded
                2. He would have to point the gun at his head
                3. He would have to pull the trigger

                IMHO it was a suicide.

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                • #9
                  gwl
                  • May 2007
                  • 1328

                  I like oaklander's theory.

                  Still, it's sad for all gun owners.
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                  • #10
                    Wyatt
                    Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 403

                    Originally posted by gwl
                    I like oaklander's theory.

                    Still, it's sad for all gun owners.
                    Truth.
                    Just another story how guns are unsafe. Sad for his familly.

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                    • #11
                      CALI-gula
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7046

                      Originally posted by Maddog5150
                      ... its always full of gang bangers or re-re's there. ...

                      ...I feel sorry for the poor sap to capped himself but seriously people. Its one less in the gene pool that lacked common sense. ...
                      ColdSteel14
                      Darwin at work.. Jesus Christ.. How many times do you have to be told "Do not point guns at yourself or other people." Maybe he didn't get the memo.
                      Go easy people. He could have been someone from this board and some strange mishap occurred. This guy could have simply just finished loading the gun, it had a bit of gun oil on it or on his hands, or sweaty hands, etc., and it slipped butt first down out of his hands into a position where the muzzle was pointing straight up, and unfortunately caught a finger on the trigger as it continued to slide through his grasp. It really could have been a freak accident.

                      I am inclined to think that if they are calling it an accident, due to how he was loading or holding it before he mis-fired it, that it was a fumbling mistake as I have described. However, the fact he was alone and had just set up targets, and had not yet commenced in firing, would lead me to be partial to oaklander's theory.

                      At least they have video to study and can likely decipher if the former or the latter.

                      But again, just remember that it could have been a bizarre accident and it could have been someone that posted regularly on this board if that was the case.

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                      • #12
                        DedEye
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 8655

                        Originally posted by CALI-gula
                        Go easy people. He could have been someone from this board and some strange mishap occurred. This guy could have simply just finished loading the gun, it had a bit of gun oil on it or on his hands, or sweaty hands, etc., and it slipped butt first down out of his hands into a position where the muzzle was pointing straight up, and unfortunately caught a finger on the trigger as it continued to slide through his grasp. It really could have been a freak accident.

                        I am inclined to think that if they are calling it an accident, due to how he was loading or holding it before he mis-fired it, that it was a fumbling mistake as I have described. However, the fact he was alone and had just set up targets, and had not yet commenced in firing, would lead me to be partial to oaklander's theory.

                        At least they have video to study and can likely decipher if the former or the latter.

                        But again, just remember that it could have been a bizarre accident and it could have been someone that posted regularly on this board if that was the case.

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                        It's definitely sad either way, but I'm partial to the suicide theory. Usually in suicide at range situations they admit it though, don't they ?
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                        • #13
                          TheDM
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 660

                          Poor guy.

                          Or.. the poor guy bought a surplus CZ-52, do not buy one these and trust the de-cocking feature of the safety. It's a known issue. Still, you'd have to point it at yourself.

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                          • #14
                            BigDogatPlay
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 7362

                            They have it on video... I'd think if it was a deliberate act (suicide) the tape would show it and the PD guys would call it that plenty quick. It is about closing the case, after all.

                            I'd like to think the guy was a victim of an accidental or negligent discharge, certainly rooted in mistakes he made. It would be nice to know the exact chain of events to learn from, but we (the great unwashed) likely never will.
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                            • #15
                              Slowshooter
                              Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 214

                              Probably he shot himself due to depression. It is not uncommon for people suffering from depression to get even more depressed during holiday seasons. Perhaps the holiday cheers or relative increase in loneliness pushed him to the edge. RPD(Riverside CITY police) seems to be a bit prtective when it comes to firearms related incidents. Turner's Riverside robbery was kept under the wraps for several weeks. So I won't doubt if RPD decided to make this one look like something 'innocent'

                              This is why a lot of ranges have 2 person rental rule. Although it is not perfect, it does deter a good number of them, supposedly.

                              As for the Magnum range, first time I went there, I wasn't impressed. The person behind the counter was not rude or anything, but seemed a bit too emotionally neutral. The place was a bit dark too. Hopefully they will get back to normal again soon.

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