Concealed Carry Video

[Diabolus]

Totally biased video for several reasons. How can they take someone straight off the street with no experience with their equipment and expect them to perform?

Even with zero training, the blond female did excellent. She shot the guy in the leg which could have incapacitated the shooter.

[Mr. Burns]

I want to see a remake of the video where everyone in the room has a CCW.

[Rocket Man]

For the concealed carry folks here, do you agree with Safewaysecurity's statement about the retention holsters? That surprised me. I'd have guessed that having a holster that would hold the pistol in place if I needed to run or jump would be a good idea.

As for the video, my takeaway is that I need to train more and mentally walk through some scenarios so that, God forbid, if I need to use my CCW, I would be effective with it.

As far as retention holsters;
I use a CB holster in the 4-5 o'clock position, I've hiked up steep hills & ran down them jumping over sage brush, climbed or should say crawled under my RV to fix it, BLM range clean ups hauling/bending/reaching/working, never has my EMP40 come loose during my camping outings- Don't know what would happen if I was running & biffed it on the concrete- might fall out then. Wish I could carry in my county/state but in the mean time I'll take the 31 other states I'm LTC in...

[Rocket Man]

I want to see a remake of the video where everyone in the room has a CCW.

^ best responce yet! Winner!

[viet4lifeOC]

[QUOTE=njineermike;7692954]He also knew exactly where the CC was going to be sitting, the CC had a weapon and holster they were unfamiliar with, had been issued a baggy shirt on purpose, and there was a second gunman who also knew who the CC was. This was a classic ambush in an attempt to show how innefective a CC is, but I can point to real life security video footage of CC'ers defending from assailants, so the point is moot.
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Don't forget the obtrusive helmet and gloves.

Here's a based scenerio:

A room with a CCW carrier. His/her seat is unknown to the assailant(s). 1-2 assailants barge into a class room full of students. Chances are it's easier for the ccw carrier to ID the threat than vice versa. If the majority of outcomes shows the professional LEO assailants getting fatal hits, then is this proof that LEO shouldn't be armed.

I expected Diane sawyer to be biased, but was disgusted by both LEOs trying to pass this as unbiased and impartial.

[BigRig81]

How often are ccw's gonna have on thick gloves and a shirt that is going to get in the way? Also, the subjects didn't know there was going to be an ambush, so it's an anti propaganda piece for sure.

[PsychGuy274]

This video gets posted from time to time. I wrote a rebuttal explaining how this is not a study, is not scientific and doesn't prove anything.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=7699861#post7699861

[bigstones]

This video gets posted from time to time. I wrote a rebuttal explaining how this is not a study, is not scientific and doesn't prove anything.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...61#post7699861

Excellent analysis. Must read.

It would have been interesting to put a police officer in the student's position. I seriously doubt he or she would have fared much better which would indicate the scenario was indeed a "set up". I don't think it would be particularly difficult to shoot the professor and the student before the student could draw especially when you know that you can advance towards the student without fear because the gun is not shooting real bullets. In real life the shooter would be fearful when they saw a gun pointed at them which is another weakness in this scenario. In addition CCW holders are not supposed to be a substitute for police. Their primary responsibility is not to protect the public.

[morfeeis]

anti or not if you have no training this is pretty accurate.

sorry but i'd rather be a guy with no training and a chance to save my life than one with no gun and no chance. That's the point of the whole video, that LTC folks wont help even when they do carry and that's just wrong.They gimped the students in the film, they all had on overly baggy shirts, gloves and the shooter was a well trained person with no real adrenaline pumping. When i do carry i dress in an appropriate manner so that i can get to my firearm should the need arise. i'm a tall guy and i'd never wear a shirt like that while carrying.

This video like most others in the MSM that have to do with guns is flawed and biased.

[PsychGuy274]

Excellent analysis. Must read.

It would have been interesting to put a police officer in the student's position. I seriously doubt he or she would have fared much better which would indicate the scenario was indeed a "set up". I don't think it would be particularly difficult to shoot the professor and the student before the student could draw especially when you know that you can advance towards the student without fear because the gun is not shooting real bullets. In real life the shooter would be fearful when they saw a gun pointed at them which is another weakness in this scenario. In addition CCW holders are not supposed to be a substitute for police. Their primary responsibility is not to protect the public.

Tat's a good idea, I'll see if I an add tat example in.