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  • #16
    johnthomas
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 7001

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    Originally posted by dirtykoala
    meh... if i ran a business and i could employ people for 1/4 of the cost and not have as much BS tax and gov regulations as i do here, guess what i would do?

    America is destroying America, buying American made isnt that cool, it just supports the self destruction.






    Does anyone have a US made TV by the way?
    Explain why buying American made is destructive to America. That makes no sense at all.
    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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    • #18
      dirtykoala
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 3476

      Originally posted by johnthomas
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      Explain why buying American made is destructive to America. That makes no sense at all.
      i just did.

      you buy an American made product, you support union thugs, artificial inflation, and corrupt tax and regulatory laws.

      those things increase the cost of things in America, people cant afford them, they default, increase debt, cause America to bail them out, spend money that we dont have, and borrow from China.

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      • #19
        dirtykoala
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 3476

        and again, can anyone tell me what brand their American made TV is?

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        • #20
          johnthomas
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 7001

          Originally posted by dirtykoala
          i just did.

          you buy an American made product, you support union thugs, artificial inflation, and corrupt tax and regulatory laws.

          those things increase the cost of things in America, people cant afford them, they default, increase debt, cause America to bail them out, spend money that we dont have, and borrow from China.
          You work here? Your work is a product of America. Are you a union thug, did you get bailed out? Did your work product increase debt? Really, really?
          Last edited by johnthomas; 12-18-2011, 12:46 AM.
          I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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          • #21
            choprzrul
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2009
            • 6544

            Thread drift......

            I could care less where my guns are made as long as a press on the bang switch creates the expected level of noise. My Russian SKS in my hands will serve to secure my Liberty the same as my 870, and same as my Poly M14s.

            How many European rifles were in the hands of the Minutemen & the militia? Doesn't matter where it came from, only where it ended up.

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            • #22
              dirtykoala
              Banned
              • Dec 2008
              • 3476

              Originally posted by johnthomas
              You work here? Your work is a product of America. Are you a union thug, did you get bailed out? Did your work product increase debt? Really, really?
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAFmFsb9XM
              actually, my work is a support for a product now made in china and india. we used to have production in CA, then they moved to TX, now to india and china. im not unionized. our company has somewhat increased the states debt because we have shut downs and encourage employees to collect unemployment during those shut downs. we did not get bailed out, but im sure our customers have, which in turn helped create revenue for us.

              Really! really!

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              • #23
                rg_1111@yahoo.com
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2003
                • 5727

                You asked for it.

                Curtis Mathes Corporation is a North American electronics retailer based in Garland, Texas


                Sorry for the off topic. Most of mine are American.
                Last edited by rg_1111@yahoo.com; 12-18-2011, 1:47 AM.

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                • #24
                  dirtykoala
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3476

                  Originally posted by rg_1111@yahoo.com
                  You asked for it.

                  Curtis Mathes Corporation is a North American electronics retailer based in Garland, Texas


                  Sorry for the off topic. Most of mine are American.
                  are the displays made in America? are the chambers that produce their displays made in America? i.e. are they 100% American made, or do they use foreign manufacturing/ engineering/ support for their products?





                  this is some of the stuff ive found out about them

                  That little word "if" looms awfully large, though. History is full of examples of superior products that died a horrible death in the marketplace. (Two words: "Sony Betamax".) The best-laid plans often are royally screwed along the way. I offer as example the small Texas-based television manufacturer, Curtis Mathes, named for founder George Curtis Mathes, which in the late Seventies had a regional reputation that could fairly be described as colossal; their audacious slogan was "The most expensive television in America, and darn well worth it." Included in that lofty price tag was a prodigious warranty: one year labor, ten years on parts. I bought one of their 19-inch sets in 1981 for a stiff $500. Twenty years later, it has never needed a repair.

                  The merits of the product, however, couldn't save Curtis Mathes. The rest of the American TV makers moved as far away from Dallas and the rest of the country as possible. Some were swallowed up by international conglomerates; some exist today only as brand names. Curtis Mathes filed for bankruptcy
                  Last edited by dirtykoala; 12-18-2011, 2:00 AM.

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                  • #25
                    wash
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 9011

                    I have guns from Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Czeslovakia, Finland, Israel, The Philipines, Russia and last but not least, The United States of America.

                    Most of my guns are American but I like examples of foreign workmanship in military arsenals and a few more civilian arms.

                    You'll never find a company that can manufacture an authentic Argentinian FAL in the US so I'm not taking away an American's job.

                    Any way, it's much better to buy a foreign gun that will last for centuries if given basic maintenance than to buy a foreign car that is going to be junk in 10-20 years (except for a few that people manage to keep on the road).
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                    • #26
                      roushstage2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2782

                      Originally posted by dirtykoala
                      im assuming you own a mustang, made by ford, whos union workers told ford that they would destroy their business if they didnt cooperate with their "requests". its a perfect example of how buying American destroys America.

                      you paid for a car, who employed union workers at some crazy wage, some of them to stand there and make sure other union workers were working, but actually doing nothing, and for what? you could have go more bang for your buck with a foreign car without supporting union thugs.

                      i currently own two chevys, both made in America. i bought them because i liked them, not because they were "made in America" or to "support American workers". my mazda was doing better at 113k mi than my chevy is doing at 75k. my hondas were perfect all of the time, and my VW sucked.

                      by intentionally buying an American product, you are most likely supporting corrupt politics, unfair tax and labor laws, and union thuggery.

                      the best thing you can buy is the thing that makes the most sense for your budget and needs.
                      I could have gotten more bang for my buck buying an imported car? Paying more not for the non-existent unions, but because "it's a foreign car, so it must be better?" It's a screwed situation either way. At least buying a Ford, Chevy or Dodge sends the majority of the money to an American-based company; not a foreign-based one.

                      So, in an effort to get the thread back on track, I bought the Marlin, that is "Made in the USA," and was cheaper than the Savage. It gets the job of a 22LR done.

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                      • #27
                        forgiven
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 5214

                        Most American, some not..

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                        • #28
                          stix213
                          AKA: Joe Censored
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 18998

                          I buy American products in general when reasonably possible. Not all my guns are American, but more than a few. I've been pretty impressed with the little Keltec PF-9 I picked up recently actually.

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                          • #29
                            Mesa Tactical
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1746

                            Originally posted by dirtykoala
                            meh... if i ran a business and i could employ people for 1/4 of the cost and not have as much BS tax and gov regulations as i do here, guess what i would do?
                            The craven path that leads to America's eventual destruction? Too bad there are so very many US manufacturers who feel the same way you do (and so very many US consumers who care more about cheap bling than quality products).

                            BTW, German manufacturers put up with twice the regulations, taxes, union BS and environmental restrictions that we have here and somehow this country of 80 million people is the number two or number three exporter in the world.

                            It's all down to character, simple as that.

                            Originally posted by stix213
                            I buy American products in general when reasonably possible. Not all my guns are American, but more than a few.
                            It doesn't matter where stuff is made, what matters is quality. If people cared about quality we wouldn't be worried about our gutted manufacturing industry. If people cared about quality you could buy in good conscious from anywhere. The Chinese can make quality, it's just that no one ever asks them to. And if they were obliged to make quality their stuff would be nearly as costly as US made stuff.

                            And I would have no problem buying quality products from China or anywhere else. China does (or has) made some very high quality firearms, like the Polytech M14s (which have forged receivers, unlike Springfield Armory's cheaper cast receivers).
                            Last edited by Mesa Tactical; 12-18-2011, 7:55 AM.
                            Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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                            • #30
                              Rob454
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11254

                              I buy american when its possible. Unless the item is just crap quality and they are simply banking on Made in the USA to sell it. If i find somethign thats better quality and its foreign I am not afraid to buy it and pass the US made product. i just haven't found much that is that way. I just found that most of the China made products are crap so i avoid them. I rather pay a little more to buy a quality product.

                              ill give you a small example of when i stopped buying chinese tools. I bought a set of cheap linesman pliers cause i needed a set I misplaced mine at work. So i jumped to Lowes and got a Kobalt linesman pliers. I had a HELL of a time cutting anything like a nail or wire staple. Cutting edge got dulled fast and the handles flexed a lot when I squeezed them. I went and bought a set of Kline pliers and called it a day. Difference in price was $8. I still have the Kleins and use them every day. The Kobalt pliers went in my garage sale box. That was about 9 years ago. So keep buying chinese made junk. At one time I thought the same, ill get this cause its cheaper and they look the same so they must work the same

                              We are simply giving our country away, and we are doing it on the cheap.
                              Last edited by Rob454; 12-18-2011, 8:29 AM.

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