New Bullet "CompBullet" your thoughts

[Stonewalker]

Bullets with SPEED HOLES in them.

'nuff said....

[Librarian]

Use the English site.

Oh this is helpful:

Comp Bullet offers a new patented system in order to reduce recoil. The new bullet creation is made of a main cavity and advanced vents that concur, when a portion of it outside from the muzzle, to work like a muzzle brake. It allows to limit the recoil effect and reduce the time of double tap. Do to the components used for its realization, unleaded less, it cancels the smoke and reduce the frictions with the barrels. Its configuration, allows an extreme precision and regular muzzle flash, reducing considerably its effect.

Machine translation has a way to go ...

[FXR]

Rocket effect? Because they allow gasses to escape a fraction of a second earlier??

[Sniper3142]

Use the English site.

Thanks.

But I still think they'd work better as something to wear vs. something to shoot.

[jamesob]

lets all praise these things that way our california polititons will think they are bad for the citizens of california.

[Ding126]

I'm thinking those bullets would make a nice whistle or a whistling sound going down range.

[calixt0]

this is the dumbest Idea I've seen let alone the claims. The claims of reduced recoil because of the bullet acts as a compensator as the bullet leaves the barrel but before its completely out of the barrel. It then goes on to assume there is gasses left in bullet to work as a rocket effect? If the gasses exited out the sides working as a comp. then how are there gases left to work as a rocket? false claims all over it.

[Dreaded Claymore]

Not illegal. Not very useful either, though.

[Cali-Shooter]

No reason for these to be illegal, but no practical reason to buy these bullets either. If you want a higher velocity bullet, just buy a lower grained bullet, not precision machine .005 inch holes in them, which you will pay for each bullet you buy.
Besides, you're just going to shoot it out anyhow and probably never recover it, so what a waste of work.

[Flouncer]

Fail

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[Army]

I left this in the comments:

Horse****. They're faster because they are lighter than regular lead based bullets of the same caliber and size, from the holes and hollow base. Engaging the rifling in the barrel, the bullet is a very tight fit...no gas could escape through the holes during its barrel time.

If these worked as they say, the bullet could not touch the rifling, which means zero stability is given the bullet, which means zero accuracy.

The moment a bullet leaves the barrel, it begins to decelerate. NO OTHER influence will make it go faster AFTER it leaves the barrel. Ballistically, being so nose heavy, these bullets will quickly become unstable it flight, resulting in very poor, if any, accuracy.

Being a solid nose, there is no way for it to produce any worse wounds than any other non-expanding bullet.

This smells more like a Onion News Network story than reality.

[Army]

I put this on the comments...and in the other thread :

"Horse****. They're faster because they are lighter than regular lead based bullets of the same caliber and size, from the holes and hollow base. Engaging the rifling in the barrel, the bullet is a very tight fit...no gas could escape through the holes during its barrel time.

If these worked as they say, the bullet could not touch the rifling, which means zero stability is given the bullet, which means zero accuracy.

The moment a bullet leaves the barrel, it begins to decelerate. NO OTHER influence will make it go faster AFTER it leaves the barrel. Ballistically, being so nose heavy, these bullets will quickly become unstable it flight, resulting in very poor, if any, accuracy.

Being a solid nose, there is no way for it to produce any worse wounds than any other non-expanding bullet.

This smells more like a Onion News Network story than reality."

[mdimeo]

The moment a bullet leaves the barrel, it begins to decelerate. NO OTHER influence will make it go faster AFTER it leaves the barrel.

Trivial but cool fact: the statement above is apparently false. A couple of years ago I read that people doing high-speed photography noticed that bullets continue to accelerate for about the first 8" after they exit the muzzle.

[Fishslayer]

Marketing crap.

And for goodness sake, if you're gonna compensate, then COMPENSATE!

[Gatotsu77]

Trivial but cool fact: the statement above is apparently false. A couple of years ago I read that people doing high-speed photography noticed that bullets continue to accelerate for about the first 8" after they exit the muzzle.

I'd love to see the footage they got on this. I realize that after a projectile exits a barrel, the expanding gasses from within the barrel could potentially still exert some level of force on it, but I'd sincerely doubt these forces to be equal to or greater than those experienced within the barrel. (seeing as the pressure will dissipate along the path of least resistance) Definitely something I'd like to hear more about.

As far as the projectile acting as a muzzle brake.. again, the exiting gasses would follow a path of least resistance. Seeing as the projectile is coming out the end of the barrel at approximately the same rate as these gasses, there would be little to no force with which to expel these gasses through a "ported bullet," and the exact position and timing for which this might occur would be so infinitesimal, I think anyone would be hard-pressed to see/feel ANY reduction in recoil caused by the ports themselves. As indicated by others, these bullets weigh less than conventional rounds in the same caliber due to their composition and design. This alone is likely the culprit for the reduction in felt recoil.

One other point I want to make.. Lets imagine for a second that the expanding gasses from within the barrel are actually able to vent via the ports in these bullets at the exact moment the ports pass the crown of the barrel. This added force applied to the bullet could and likely would destabilize its flight straight out of the barrel, depending on how the gasses exited, yes? Again returning to the notion of path of least resistance, the exhausted gasses could apply more force to one side of the bullet than the other. (though likely to a very small margin, but small inconsistencies at the muzzle lead to big accuracy problems down-range)

Yet another idea that just hit my mind... and again following the assumption that the bullet is actually able to vent some of the gas pressure as it leaves the barrel; as the pressure of these gasses exiting the ports on the bullet decreases, it would probably cause a some level of turbulence in airflow along the profile of the bullet. This may be exaggerated as the pressure fades to a vacuum from air passing the large hole in the base of the bullet, pulling some air in through the ports on the side. Again, this is all operating on the concept that these bullets are actually able to vent to some degree the expanding gasses from within the firearm's barrel at the moment the vents pass the crown of the barrel.

It was mentioned above that these rounds might make a whistling sound as they travel downrange - I'd be interested to see if they do. Oddly enough, that idea sounded a lot like the Nerf whistling darts I had as a kid, or perhaps the Vortex football that whistled. Sure as heck wouldn't be useful as a "sniper round" if they did whistle, but it might make for an interesting conversation starter at the range. It isn't unheard of for people to spend exuberant quantities of money for novelty ammunition.. and perhaps it would become quite a marketing ploy. I can see it now.. "Audible tracer rounds - California legal! Only 3 easy payments of $24.95 per 50 bullets. Casing, powder, primer, and all other accessories not included. Some assembly required. Call now, and we'll make one of the payments for you!!"