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  • #16
    call-in
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 646

    Looks very cool!

    So, how does it work? Is it a one time use where once the ripcord is open you'll then have to get a new one?
    -Colin
    ︻デ═一

    Originally posted by KillAllGuns
    Black color scheme makes the bullets more deadly.

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    • #17
      IPSICK
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 4259

      Can someone recommend a good lock for this setup? Anything that releases easily?

      I like the idea of a number combo lock where you're one number away from defense, but I think it would best work if the hook and the locking portion could completely rip apart and separate.
      "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

      "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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      • #18
        d4v0s
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 1661

        I like idea of a ripcord setup that would be one time use.

        I have been playing with mini Bio locks for my LUCC rig. I found them for 80 bucks. I also got a high speed high torque servo from one of my rc planes, Going to try and have the bio lock trigger the release. my only thing is it has to be reliable. And hobbyist electronics are anything but reliable. Especially these servos.
        Originally posted by Franklincollector
        It was administered with a toothpick and placed on a street taco.

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        • #19
          dtjester
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 513

          Originally posted by wazdat
          This video has been making the rounds.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnO1An-RK_A
          Did anyone else notice that per at least one of the comments on that vid, we (the Calguns People) are pretentious pricks?
          Originally posted by Rhythm of Life
          Buy the cow and shove a keg up its ***, like beer butt chicken but better.

          Originally posted by SD Bay Basser
          ...I'm safe and they smell like snuggle bear now.

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          • #20
            CitaDeL
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 5843

            Originally posted by IPSICK
            What about government buildings and state/local parks?
            State parks are a no go with any weapons regardless of how they are transported. Government buildings are still a no go per CPC 171b. Postal property is still off limits.

            Originally posted by HighLander51
            You may have a problem as this rig could be considered as concealed upon the person.
            CPC 12026.1 lists a secure locked container as an exemption to concealed carry.

            Originally posted by IPSICK
            Can someone recommend a good lock for this setup? Anything that releases easily?

            I like the idea of a number combo lock where you're one number away from defense, but I think it would best work if the hook and the locking portion could completely rip apart and separate.
            As seen in the photo I provided, a 3 dial combination lock for use on luggage is sufficient to meet the standard set in the law.


            Originally posted by call-in
            Looks very cool!

            So, how does it work? Is it a one time use where once the ripcord is open you'll then have to get a new one?
            Originally posted by d4v0s
            I like idea of a ripcord setup that would be one time use.
            A 'rip cord' opening would negate the requirement for a 'secure' container unless you could lock opposite ends of the 'rip cord' so that it will not open without removing the lock.



            Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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            • #21
              Dan-O
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 242

              What keeps someone from just pulling the wailing card out and chucking it?

              Sent from my G'z One Commando using Tapatalk

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              • #22
                sandwich
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 72

                Originally posted by CitaDeL
                State parks are a no go with any weapons regardless of how they are transported.
                Please quote PC #.

                I know that Lake Perris (State Recreational area) allows shotgun hunting during quail and dove seasons. So why do some state park allow hunting if they are "no go with any weapons?"

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                • #23
                  CitaDeL
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 5843

                  Originally posted by sandwich
                  Please quote PC #.

                  I know that Lake Perris (State Recreational area) allows shotgun hunting during quail and dove seasons. So why do some state park allow hunting if they are "no go with any weapons?"
                  State park restrictions are not in the penal code. The restriction is in the California Code of Regulations (CCR), title 14, Div.3, chap. 1, s 4313.



                  Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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                  • #24
                    IPSICK
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 4259

                    Originally posted by CitaDeL
                    State park restrictions are not in the penal code. The restriction is in the California Code of Regulations (CCR), title 14, Div.3, chap. 1, s 4313.
                    Citadel, thank you. You've been really helpful in this thread and thanks to you and this thread, I'm almost set up for LUCC.

                    Now you list the state park restriction, but are local and regional parks restricted as well?

                    So far these are the list of restricted areas discussed:

                    -state parks
                    -government buildings
                    -postal property

                    Is there anything we should add? If other people are considering this type of carry, I think we should know what all the legalities are. Any resources to find the information so I can stop pestering others (like Citadel)?
                    "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                    "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                    • #25
                      unusedusername
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4124

                      Does anyone have the link to the biometric luggage lock?

                      I've seen it before but now my google-fu is failing me...

                      I remember it was a luggage-lock sized padlock with a small reader on it.

                      Or maybe a better question would be: what would be the best kind of lock to put on a LUCC container? I'd be looking for small, discrete, easy and fast to open even in darkness, and secure-enough to pass requirements for "locked".
                      Last edited by unusedusername; 12-09-2011, 6:19 PM.

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                      • #26
                        CitaDeL
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2007
                        • 5843

                        Originally posted by IPSICK
                        Citadel, thank you. You've been really helpful in this thread and thanks to you and this thread, I'm almost set up for LUCC.

                        Now you list the state park restriction, but are local and regional parks restricted as well?

                        So far these are the list of restricted areas discussed:

                        -state parks
                        -government buildings
                        -postal property

                        Is there anything we should add? If other people are considering this type of carry, I think we should know what all the legalities are. Any resources to find the information so I can stop pestering others (like Citadel)?
                        Local ordinances may exist that prohibit possession- and you will have to do you own research to learn where these might exist in your vicinity. Start with your city and counties web page. Many municipalities will have their code on the web.

                        This form of transportation is significantly broader in the places you can go than UOC and is unlikely to appear on the LEO radar in the same way. Nevertheless, the same recommendations on police interaction while exposed carrying apply in my opinion. Since a firearm is not visable (plain view doctrine), I believe that one may (and should) decline a search... this would include a denying a request to inspect for loaded condition if you havent already admitted to transporting a firearm in your locked case. Since I am not an attorney- it's in your best interest to consult one before following my advice and example.



                        Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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                        • #27
                          IPSICK
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4259

                          I was actually drawn to this method because it was comparatively inconspicuous to UOC. Declining a search is pretty much a given and I'll look into local county ordinances and relative city ordinances. I'd imagine San Francisco to be the worst of the worst up here in the Bay Area.
                          "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                          "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                          • #28
                            sandwich
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 72

                            Originally posted by CitaDeL
                            State parks are a no go with any weapons regardless of how they are transported.
                            (CitaDeL: Thanks for pointing out the actual reg.)

                            If you read http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=21301 this above quote is FUD:

                            (IANAL, but) my understanding of these rules, for California state parks, it's OK to:

                            1) Hunt where permitted (mainly on state recreation area, per #4305)

                            2) Carry weapons as long as they follow rules (like for hunting) (per #4313).

                            3) Carry unloaded and locked (or inoperable) weapons (per #4313) for temp. housing and vehicles.

                            So, at least unloaded locked guns are OK for tents & cars (but not LUCC to walk around the park freely).

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                            • #29
                              CitaDeL
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2007
                              • 5843

                              Originally posted by sandwich
                              (CitaDeL: Thanks for pointing out the actual reg.)

                              If you read http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=21301 this above quote is FUD:

                              (IANAL, but) my understanding of these rules, for California state parks, it's OK to:

                              1) Hunt where permitted (mainly on state recreation area, per #4305)

                              2) Carry weapons as long as they follow rules (like for hunting) (per #4313).

                              3) Carry unloaded and locked (or inoperable) weapons (per #4313) for temp. housing and vehicles.

                              So, at least unloaded locked guns are OK for tents & cars (but not LUCC to walk around the park freely).
                              I'd like to see someone explain that they are carrying a handgun LUCC on the State Capitol grounds for the purposes of 'hunting'. Or while it is attached at the belt and not in their temporary lodging or in their mechanical mode of conveyance.

                              To my recollection, the only people that might be exempt from these regs would be LEO and those licensed to carry concealed.



                              Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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