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  • DJMAN
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    • Apr 2006
    • 1170

    Rifles seized at his house.

    Anybody in Madera know anything about this.

    MADERA -- Police said Wednesday that a 16-year-old sophomore known to some as "Virginia Tech 2" faces charges of threatening to shoot students at Madera High School's north campus.

    The boy was arrested Tuesday after police searched his Madera home and seized 15 high-powered rifles -- including some with scopes -- along with hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

    The news came the same day that an 18-year-old student killed eight people at his high school in Finland before fatally shooting himself, and Los Angeles police responded to a shooting at Venice High School. No one was hurt at Venice High, and no suspects have been apprehended.

    Madera police Sgt. Robert Salas said the student, whom authorities would not name because of his age, is being held in the Madera County Juvenile Hall without bail.

    District Attorney Ernest LiCalsi said he plans to arraign the boy today in Madera Juvenile Court. He said a judge will determine whether the boy is tried as a juvenile or an adult.

    Police gave few details about the boy, apart from noting in a statement that he "has a propensity towards violence and has a fascination with death and serial killers."

    Jake Bragonier, a spokesman for the Madera Unified School District, said the student never gave school officials reason for concern -- he has never been suspended or expelled or in any serious trouble. He has attended Madera Unified schools since kindergarten.

    Bragonier said though no one was injured and there is no allegation that he brought a gun on campus, school officials want to expel the student.

    "We take this extremely seriously," he said. "There's no such thing as an innocuous threat."

    Salas said some Madera High students nicknamed the boy "Virginia Tech 2."

    Virginia Tech became the site of one of the worst mass killings in American history in April when a mentally ill student shot and killed 32 students and faculty before taking his own life.

    It was students who led to the boy's arrest in Madera, authorities said.

    At least two told their parents about a Nov. 1 conversation at Madera High's north campus on L Street in which the teen allegedly made gun-related threats.

    Parents alerted school officials, who called police.

    Bragonier said the student made a "general" threat, and did not single out a particular person he was going to shoot.

    He was pulled out of class Friday and questioned by campus security officers, then suspended, Bragonier said.

    Salas said the teen's parents were aware of the arsenal of weapons and that the juvenile had access to them.

    At the boy's home Wednesday, a man identified himself as a "friend of the family." He said neither he nor the boy's mother would comment.

    Some students at Madera High's north campus had not heard anything about the threats or a student being suspended.

    But they were alarmed that one of their classmates might have been planning an attack on the school.

    "That's scary, dude," senior Steven Ramirez said.

    A group of female students debated among themselves whether the boy should have been suspended, since he hadn't brought any guns to school, but agreed that making threats probably warranted getting kicked out.

    "This is kind of scary, with Virginia Tech and all that," senior Alexis Villasana said.

    Junior Adriana Resendis also found it chilling: "Imagine if that guy was in your class
    Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws."

    -- Edward Abbey, "Abbey's Road", 1979
  • #2
    wildcard
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 4920

    So the guy is being punished for allegedly making threats? I hope there's proof and not just some dreamt up story because someone felt threatened by his gun ownership.

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    • #3
      mecam
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      • Jun 2007
      • 4049

      Question is are they 15 high powered rifles or 15 high powered AIRSoft rifles?
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      • #4
        kermit315
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2007
        • 5928

        probably 14 airsofts and a .22 marlin with a scope on it, they didnt say assault weapons so couldnt have been a hi point 9mm carbine

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        • #5
          Josh3239
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 9197

          [sarcasm] You guys, he had some scopes too!!! What does someone need with haundreds of rounds anyways? [/sarcasm]

          I am with you guys, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. Although I find it funny they freak out about the amount of guns when someone could only fire one at a time. Guess it makes it sound scarier huh?

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          • #6
            4 Brigada
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 2119

            So the guy is being punished for allegedly making threats? I hope there's proof and not just some dreamt up story because someone felt threatened by his gun ownership.
            Probably, , if in HS and they told someone "going to kick yer butt", its making a threat that will probably depending on what head will prevail will result in suspension as a minimum if not expulsion, if the kid said kill, its a terrorist threat, thats a whole different scenario. Personally I quit a job cause I was tired of listening to the anti gun bull directed at me, the HR department didnt do anything, and it wasnt the guns per se but the type of guns. The CEO with his 8k benelli killing birds OK, military style rifle shooting paper made me a "person to watch". It was a hostile enviroment didnt need the money or their crap. seeya
            Last edited by 4 Brigada; 11-08-2007, 6:53 PM.
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            You should banish any thoughts of how you may appear to others.
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            "I won't be wronged, I wont be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."
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            • #7
              FEDUPWBS
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 2187

              OMG the century ammo ban is already rearing its ugly head. He is already down to HUNDREDS of rounds bet he was feeling pretty desperate. Thats probably why he was grumpy and making threats (found out .308 is 50 cents a round!)
              Originally posted by ChrisO
              My solar tac grip wrap just slides off if I pull on it... I can tighten it down as much as I can and it will still slide off. I got it for a regular AK PG and it's on a standard romanian bakelite I think PG... What should I do? I kept the mag lock installed just in case this would happen...

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              What is a FEDUPWBS?

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              • #8
                RRangel
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                • Oct 2005
                • 5164

                A link to the story would be nice.

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                • #9
                  DJMAN
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1170

                  http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/11114731.html
                  Last edited by DJMAN; 11-08-2007, 9:53 PM. Reason: pics
                  Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws."

                  -- Edward Abbey, "Abbey's Road", 1979

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                  • #10
                    Crazed_SS
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 4114

                    Personally, Im happy the police take threats like these seriously. Everytime one of these school shootings happens, everyone says "There were warning signs, why didnt anyone do anything" .. Well the police are doing something now and I commend them. There is absolutely no reason to wait until someone acts on these threats.

                    I mean some threats are just that, but when someone makes a threat and is serious and also has the means to carry out violence, dont you guys think it's prudent for the police to take action? What if you guys had a neighbor that owned guns and threatened to shoot you, would you just sit there and say, "Oh he probably doesnt mean it.. He's just messing around".. I bet you'd call the cops and report it.

                    Just because someone owns guns doesnt meant they're a good guy and on your side. There's a lot of jacked up people out there with guns.
                    Last edited by Crazed_SS; 11-08-2007, 9:46 PM.
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                    • #11
                      M. Sage
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 19759

                      "We take this extremely seriously," he said. "There's no such thing as an innocuous threat."
                      Nahhhh. That one's too easy.
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                      • #12
                        8200rpm
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1151

                        M1 Carbine - Pump shotgun (???)
                        Mini-14 or 30 - Bolt rifle (???)
                        10/22 - Blackpowder musket (???)
                        Win 94 - I can't tell
                        AR15 A1 - Marlin lever action (???)
                        Bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-PING (x5)

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                        • #13
                          Charliegone
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 6104

                          Originally posted by Crazed_SS
                          Personally, Im happy the police take threats like these seriously. Everytime one of these school shootings happens, everyone says "There were warning signs, why didnt anyone do anything" .. Well the police are doing something now and I commend them. There is absolutely no reason to wait until someone acts on these threats.

                          I mean some threats are just that, but when someone makes a threat and is serious and also has the means to carry out violence, dont you guys think it's prudent for the police to take action? What if you guys had a neighbor that owned guns and threatened to shoot you, would you just sit there and say, "Oh he probably doesnt mean it.. He's just messing around".. I bet you'd call the cops and report it.

                          Just because someone owns guns doesnt meant they're a good guy and on your side. There's a lot of jacked up people out there with guns.
                          +1 on that. Making threats of that nature isn't something a normal person would do.


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                          • #14
                            Bizcuits
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                            • Aug 2006
                            • 6957

                            Considering many of those don't look like airsoft guns, I'm curious now as to where he got them.
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                            • #15
                              Kelvrick
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                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1064

                              I'm jealous of that kid's collection. Although only a couple hudnred rounds? I go through that much every trip to the range.

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