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  • #31
    Batman
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2567

    Out this store!! I'd like to do business with them!

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    • #32
      Tenamaxtle
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1969

      OP, what is your address I am happy sending you a check for $0.01, and I will gladly call the gun store to tell them to charge you full price for a lock they will deliver, and most likely you will never use.
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      • #33
        dwtt
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7470

        Originally posted by kemasa
        One issue is that the shop is violating the law if they are claiming that there was a lock with the firearm, but really isn't. That is going to get them in trouble sooner or later. There is a Federal law regarding locks, which has not been published, as required, and a CA law which requires a certified lock or that the person have a safe or certified lock box. This is a criminal issue, not a civil issue though.

        With respect to being charged $.01 and not getting the lock, once you left the store it is up to you to prove that you did not actually get the lock. You should have said something at the time, if it was important to you. At this point in time you can't prove that you did not actually get the lock. The shop, while being stupid, is trying to reduce your costs and think that they are helping you, while putting themselves at risk.
        The store doesn't claim the gun came with a lock, because if it did, they wouldn't have to sell the guy a lock. The store isn't putting themselves at risk. Why can't anyone else see how this works?
        The store sold the customer a CA approved lock, then bought it back for roughly the same price as what they sold it for. What law is being broken? The gun store's receipt is just as valid in complying with CA laws as a receipt for the same lock from Walmart, Turners, or any other store.

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        • #34
          louscamaro91
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 3522

          Someone put a foot in their mouth.
          I could understand if you were being charged full price for a lock and the goods not being delivered but.... Well it's pointless to say anything more.
          Everyone above me has already said what I think.
          Case closed!

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          • #35
            DannyInSoCal
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2010
            • 8271

            Originally posted by r3dn3ck
            if it was just me I wouldn't give 2 lumps of cold feces. It's that they do it to EVERYONE rather than let the affadavit play or just giving the lock to those that did in fact pay for it. I asked about the affadavit.
            So you paid a penny - Instead of the $8 I've been charged for worthless locks.

            I have a box full of them.

            Cry and whine about something else if you crave attention -

            But trying to figure out how to screw over a shop doing you a favor -

            Is a real douche bag move...
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            • #36
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              Originally posted by dwtt
              The store doesn't claim the gun came with a lock, because if it did, they wouldn't have to sell the guy a lock. The store isn't putting themselves at risk. Why can't anyone else see how this works?
              The store sold the customer a CA approved lock, then bought it back for roughly the same price as what they sold it for. What law is being broken? The gun store's receipt is just as valid in complying with CA laws as a receipt for the same lock from Walmart, Turners, or any other store.
              Please take a look at the laws. The firearm has to be delivered to the buyer with a lock (Federal) or that the buyer has a safe or certified lock box (CA only). Adding a lock to the receipt, but not including a lock is not following the law and IS trying to claim that the gun, as delivered to the buyer, came with a lock. You are not understanding that it is not about whether the firearm was delivered to the store with a lock or not.

              What law? Where is the lock that is required to accompany the firearm? It is NOT just about a receipt.

              Effective January 1, 2002, no firearm may be sold, transferred, or manufactured within California unless that firearm is accompanied by a DOJ-approved firearms safety device (California Penal Code section 12087, et seq).
              12088.1. (a) All firearms sold or transferred in this state by a
              licensed firearms dealer, including private transfers through a
              dealer, and all firearms manufactured in this state, shall include or
              be accompanied by a firearms safety device
              that is listed on the
              Department of Justice's roster of approved firearms safety devices
              and that is identified as appropriate for that firearm by reference
              to either the manufacturer and model of the firearm, or to the
              physical characteristics of the firearm that match those listed on
              the roster for use with the device.
              Last edited by kemasa; 10-24-2011, 11:35 AM.
              Kemasa.
              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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