#*%!# Smith and Wesson.. UPDATE..They fixed it!

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Yes my M&P 9mm full size and compact as well as my S&W 1911 have functioned flawlessly.

[woodcreekguy]

600 rounds later

Took my 63 to the range today for the first time. No issues with it with the exception of cci stingers and velocitors being really difficult to eject. I then put a full 525 federal bulk box through it. No issues. Easy ejection even without cleaning it once.

Good day at the range. Time to clean one very dirty revolver.

[chim-chim7]

You should definitely sell it. Didn't you hear about the OP about them being junk. I would not trust it. We should always base our opinions on the testimony of one man. Matter of fact now all my S&W's are for sale, maybe I will just trade them for Wal-Mart gift cards at the LA gun buyback.

[BigDogatPlay]

EXACTAMUNDO.

I think this holds true in the S&W world, particularly because I think the median age of the S&W revolver collector/accumulator is 50+...and so those guys/gals have actually lived through many of the changes are thus nostalgic for the older guns for reasons not necessarily related to quality.

(I'm, uh, somewhat under the median age but my love for S&W wheelguns is rooted in the same period).

--Neill

I'm in that demographic, carried on the job and owned some of the best S&W's from the 60's, 70's and early 80's. There were lemon guns turned out even in those days. The real characters my age and a bit more still speak ill of the changes in quality when Bangor Punta took over.

That said, I can deal with MIM, and I can deal with the reduction in hand fitting that CNC helps to drive. I can even deal with the stupid lock if I have to. But what turns me away from most new manufacture S&Ws is the barrel shroud. If I wanted a gun with a removable shroud over the barrel that can fall off if I fail to pay attention to it, I'd have bought a Dan Wesson.

[redcliff]

I"m in that demographic too, and I'm much less tolerant than Bigdogatplay of the current crop of S&W's. I don't like locks and I'm not fond of MIM, I'm lukewarm to stainless and what S&W passes off as blueing these days doesn't impress me. I don't think they're bad guns, they just irritate me by having that dumb hole in their side for the lock. I don't buy Rugers either because I don't like the safety warnings engraved on the barrels. In short I don't like guns partially designed by lawyers.

What I do like is the quality blueing done on the 20+ S&W revolvers from the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's that I own and I find their accuracy to be outstanding also. I also like magnums with pinned barrels and recessed cylinders and I like wood grips on blued revolvers, I'm slowly changing most of mine out to cokebottle grips; either original, Nill reproductions or Eagle reproductions.

I do own two S&W's with locks, but only because they are ultra light titanium models for carrying while fishing or hiking, not handguns I use for serious range time or ones I take any particular pride of ownership in.

I'm sorry the OP is having problems, and I hope S&W takes care of him. Fortunately on my old revolvers I"ve never had to repair anything other than an extractor rod that came loose on a 29-3 Bangor Punta.

[Maltese Falcon]

I had no idea what MIM meant...so I looked it up. You must be kidding me .

Well good luck to the OP on gettin' your piece fixed, I have a 325 45 ACP Thunder Ranch with no problems, so far....

I have only shot around 100 rounds though.

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[compulsivegunbuyer]

I sent it back, and hopefully they return it fixed.

[pyromensch]

Take it easy. Not all S&W's are junk. Things break. Maybe you got a lemon.

well then i have had two lemons, 629's from the eighties, (barrel turning issues)

[ArmyMedicMoose]

I have a 686 4",627 4", 442,57 and a 310. Never had one problem with any of them. My 627 has tons of rounds down the tube.

[Safra460]

Still loved my pre-lock 686-6 and 627PC JM special. Shot mostly 38spc and not an issue so far. Also had the 460XVR with lock and shot more than 400 rounds thru it and no issue. Still thinking about a new 617 6". But pre-lock is hard to find.
Good luck with yours.

[dadoody]

I traded my Model 10 S&W for a GP100

[drdren]

I had to return my model 22 in .45 acp 2 times to S&W before it worked properly. It works perfectly now. I had great experiences with S&W's customer service. They treated me like a valued customer. No complaints.

However, my initial disappointment made me lose my love for this revolver and I might put her up for sale or trade her. My advice is to shoot the heck out of your weapon after S&W repairs it. I am sure that you will love it and won't get rid of it. I just never really shot my revolver much after it was repaired.

[shooting4life]

Problems came from every generation of smith. You don't hear about it for the older ones because they have already been fixed 30 years ago when the revolver was first sold.

I don't mind mim but cannot stand the lock. The biggest difference I find between the older smiths and the newer ones is the finish on blued guns. One of the nicest finished guns I own is a 627-0 from the late 80's early 90's. This period was considered one of the worst. One of the worst finished smiths I own was from the same period in a 617 no dash. My oldest smith is a 1917 from 1918 with a sampling of different guns from the late 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's and a lot from the 80's to mid 90's.

[Mickey D]

I don't know what your "snap" was, other than your fingers.
Some .22 RF cartridges are very dirty too shoot, leaving nasty residue and grit in the action, under the ejector star and chamber recesses. The last two can cause the cartridges to not fully seat in the chambers and make the revolver feel gritty and lock up when rotating.

Try cleaning this area with a tooth brush every 100 rounds or so.

[Cali-Shooter]

I traded my Model 10 S&W for a GP100

+1 for the GP-100, I love mine, but not to the point where I am 'safe-queening' it. Excellent shooter, and I'm not afraid to get mine dirty.