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  • #16
    USMC 82-86
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 2428

    I agree the LEO in this case was a stand up guy. I believe he handled the situation very well and with respect. He was very professional. Also even though the guy was carrying in a legal manner the officer is still just trying to make sure he is safe during the stop, I have no issue with that at all. He didn't slam the guy to the curb or even get a attitude. The UOCer on the other hand could have been a little more cool during the stop. Having rights doesn't mean you can't be courteous with the officer. The officer made the guy aware he was aware of his rights and he respected his rights. This is the kind of attitude from UOCer's that makes it tough for others who choose to carry in this manner. I again would be glad to see more LEO's like this officer great job. One other thing if you carry does it hurt to have your ID on your person?
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    • #17
      jl123
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 4921

      Originally posted by USMC 82-86
      I agree the LEO in this case was a stand up guy. I believe he handled the situation very well and with respect. He was very professional. Also even though the guy was carrying in a legal manner the officer is still just trying to make sure he is safe during the stop, I have no issue with that at all. He didn't slam the guy to the curb or even get a attitude. The UOCer on the other hand could have been a little more cool during the stop. Having rights doesn't mean you can't be courteous with the officer. The officer made the guy aware he was aware of his rights and he respected his rights. This is the kind of attitude from UOCer's that makes it tough for others who choose to carry in this manner. I again would be glad to see more LEO's like this officer great job. One other thing if you carry does it hurt to have your ID on your person?
      They make it a point not to carry ID so that the cops can't ILLEGALY run their IDs.
      Originally posted by jshoebot
      This thread wouldn't have happened if they sold drugs in vending machines.

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      • #18
        ENTHUSIAST
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 4440

        CA is NOT a stop and ID state so showing your ID or identifing yourself in the absence of a crime to a LEO not required.

        There is case law to back this up but I cant think of the name at the moment.

        I am sure someone here know it off the top of their head.

        Originally posted by USMC 82-86
        I agree the LEO in this case was a stand up guy. I believe he handled the situation very well and with respect. He was very professional. Also even though the guy was carrying in a legal manner the officer is still just trying to make sure he is safe during the stop, I have no issue with that at all. He didn't slam the guy to the curb or even get a attitude. The UOCer on the other hand could have been a little more cool during the stop. Having rights doesn't mean you can't be courteous with the officer. The officer made the guy aware he was aware of his rights and he respected his rights. This is the kind of attitude from UOCer's that makes it tough for others who choose to carry in this manner. I again would be glad to see more LEO's like this officer great job. One other thing if you carry does it hurt to have your ID on your person?

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        • #19
          USMC 82-86
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 2428

          Originally posted by jl123
          They make it a point not to carry ID so that the cops can't ILLEGALY run their IDs.

          I understand the legal aspect of not having to show the ID in the absence of a crime being committed. I said, does it hurt to carry the ID? I made the comment that the UOCer was within his rights, I was just trying to suggest that being courteous never hurts, it especially helps the gun owning community. I had a CWP in S.C. and was not committing a crime by carrying, but was required to inform the officer even if I was only being stopped at a license check point. I didn't commit a traffic violation or any other crime that facilitated the stop. I think the guy was well within his rights, I just believe that the attitude by UOCer doesn't need to be a part of the interview that was being conducted by the officer. This was a officer with a positive attitude not a LEO that believes we shouldn't own guns.
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          • #20
            Arisaka
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2153

            Very cool cop. We need more like him!
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            • #21
              epcii
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 637

              I like his shout-out at the end. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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              • #22
                sniper4usmc
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 1984

                Dupe.
                seen it least 2 times in calgun
                USMC 95-99

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                • #23
                  KWB977
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 931

                  I like how when he is shaking the UOCs hand, he does not let go until he has said his entire piece...... so make all the statement you want, the officer is the one with the control in this situation.

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                  • #24
                    RK808
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1042

                    DELETE
                    Last edited by RK808; 05-27-2020, 8:45 PM.

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                    • #25
                      jl123
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4921

                      Originally posted by KWB977
                      I like how when he is shaking the UOCs hand, he does not let go until he has said his entire piece...... so make all the statement you want, the officer is the one with the control in this situation.
                      Standard way to let someone know you are dominant.
                      Originally posted by jshoebot
                      This thread wouldn't have happened if they sold drugs in vending machines.

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                      • #26
                        RP1911
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 5198

                        I love how the PO tried to elicit from the UOCer the last name by mentioning the first name.
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                        • #27
                          1911_sfca
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1371

                          Officer Lyons was awesome. Love the Boston accent and the God Bless America comment at the end. The UOC was lost and needlessly uncooperative. Seems like someone without a lot of experience with social interaction; he could hardly put a sentence together. And I don't believe he is a former Marine.

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                          • #28
                            1911_sfca
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1371

                            Originally posted by RP1911
                            I love how the PO tried to elicit from the UOCer the last name by mentioning the first name.
                            I don't think Jeremy is even his real name. He said, "Let's say 'Jeremy'" when asked what his name is.

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                            • #29
                              Treb5
                              Vietnam Vet
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 860

                              Originally posted by 1911_sfca
                              Officer Lyons was awesome. Love the Boston accent and the God Bless America comment at the end. The UOC was lost and needlessly uncooperative. Seems like someone without a lot of experience with social interaction; he could hardly put a sentence together. And I don't believe he is a former Marine.
                              +1 This cop showed class. The officer in the Ohio CCW incident should take note of Officer Lyons professionalism.
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                              • #30
                                FatalKitty
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 2942

                                LOL I bet "jeremy" felt like a total ******* after that encounter.

                                dip****... I hate it when people do this to cool people, cops are people too, and some of them are cool
                                you don't rise to the occasion,
                                you just fall back on your level of training.

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