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  • #46
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by locosway
    Because the A2 handguard sucks, and some people don't want a full rail system. I'm one of those people...
    Don't need a full rail... there's plenty of FF tubes available that will allow for short rail sections...

    And then people get the MOE and then hang rails all over it.
    The way I've seen some MOEs dressed out, they may as well be Yankee Hill "Soupcan" rails... at least the YH is free float.
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    • #47
      locosway
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2009
      • 11346

      Originally posted by Cokebottle
      Don't need a full rail... there's plenty of FF tubes available that will allow for short rail sections...

      And then people get the MOE and then hang rails all over it.
      The way I've seen some MOEs dressed out, they may as well be Yankee Hill "Soupcan" rails... at least the YH is free float.
      If I was going to run anything more than a AFG then I would look into a rail system. I prefer the look of the MOE over most other systems. One exception is the KAC rail that is the barrel nut and has the front sight integrated.
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      • #48
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by Cokebottle
        Don't need a full rail... there's plenty of FF tubes available that will allow for short rail sections...

        And then people get the MOE and then hang rails all over it.
        The way I've seen some MOEs dressed out, they may as well be Yankee Hill "Soupcan" rails... at least the YH is free float.
        No, not everyone sticks rails all over their MOE handguards. I don't have any rail sections on my MOE handguard, and locosway only appears to have 1 section.

        If I were to ever get a section of rail to attach anything, it'd be one of those 2 inch pieces so I could mount a light, that's it.

        As far as a freefloat tube, there's a couple problems with that. Cost(you're not going to find a drop in FF tube for $30), and the bottom of every FF tube I've seen is round. Like I said, I prefer the flat bottom of the MOE handguard.

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        • #49
          762.DEFENSE
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 6314

          The instructions specifically state not to mount on the Front Gas Block.

          Pics please!

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          • #50
            spddrcr
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 1585

            I have been running the magpul front site on my 3 gun rifle on the gas block for nearly 8 months and am still trying to figure out how you melted yours?
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            • #51
              Peter.Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 7351

              Originally posted by spddrcr
              I have been running the magpul front site on my 3 gun rifle on the gas block for nearly 8 months and am still trying to figure out how you melted yours?
              I'm still trying to figure out how yours is shooting to POA ... the sight height is set up for a rail, not a gas block.
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              • #52
                rkt88edmo
                Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2002
                • 10062

                Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                I'm still trying to figure out how yours is shooting to POA ... the sight height is set up for a rail, not a gas block.
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                • #53
                  socal425
                  Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 449

                  Originally posted by Colt-45
                  Where's the "Magpul sights don't melt" crew at now?

                  In other threads people have SWORN Magpul sights won't melt, even on gas blocks.
                  Running them on my gas block with no issues. Over 3k rounds fired including a full tactical carbine course. Still holds zero and no melting. LGS has offered to replace them if they ever melted.
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                  • #54
                    SERIAL SNIPER
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 147

                    Originally posted by socal425
                    Running them on my gas block with no issues. Over 3k rounds fired including a full tactical carbine course. Still holds zero and no melting. LGS has offered to replace them if they ever melted.
                    only 3000 rounds fired i think i did about 2000 that day. the sights melted around the base where it contacts the gas block. the gas block has the same center line as the upper reciever

                    as for magpuls products. the only reason why people buy it is because its tacticool. i see no reason for ranger plates(man up pull that mag out sissy) enhanced trigger gaurds never seen anybody who has fingers to big to fit into the stock trigger gaurd. as for windows in your mag you know when your out of ammo when your bolt dosent slam shut. i can tell a empty mag by its weight. i can go on an on i really think magpul makes all that crap because there is more mall ninjas out there then there are anything else
                    Last edited by SERIAL SNIPER; 07-04-2011, 8:12 PM.

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                    • #55
                      xxINKxx
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 4289

                      Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                      I'm still trying to figure out how yours is shooting to POA ... the sight height is set up for a rail, not a gas block.
                      Alot of gas blacks these days are same height as standard rail. This is the 21st century!
                      Last edited by xxINKxx; 07-04-2011, 8:52 PM.
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                      • #56
                        VytamenC Tactical
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 2574

                        Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                        I'm still trying to figure out how yours is shooting to POA ... the sight height is set up for a rail, not a gas block.
                        you do know that some gasblocks are set up the same height at the rail and the upper reciever right

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                        • #57
                          spddrcr
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1585

                          Originally posted by xxINKxx
                          Alot of gas blacks these days are same height as standard rail. This is the 21st century!
                          you would think people would figure this small fact out
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                          • #58
                            spddrcr
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1585

                            Originally posted by SERIAL SNIPER
                            only 3000 rounds fired i think i did about 2000 that day. the sights melted around the base where it contacts the gas block. the gas block has the same center line as the upper reciever

                            as for magpuls products. the only reason why people buy it is because its tacticool. i see no reason for ranger plates(man up pull that mag out sissy) enhanced trigger gaurds never seen anybody who has fingers to big to fit into the stock trigger gaurd. as for windows in your mag you know when your out of ammo when your bolt dosent slam shut. i can tell a empty mag by its weight. i can go on an on i really think magpul makes all that crap because there is more mall ninjas out there then there are anything else
                            wrong, I bought my front sight because it was a cheap alternative in case i have to take a shot i dont feel comfortable taking using my c-more optic or if something happens to my c more optic during a match. 20 round mags work for when i have to be able to get the rifle low to the ground and shoot under obstacles and well those ranger plates you speak of help me hold onto mags when loading unloading my rifle as i am disabled and don't have the finger strength of most people my age.

                            sorry we can't all be perfect like you
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                            • #59
                              locosway
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 11346

                              Originally posted by SERIAL SNIPER
                              only 3000 rounds fired i think i did about 2000 that day. the sights melted around the base where it contacts the gas block. the gas block has the same center line as the upper reciever

                              as for magpuls products. the only reason why people buy it is because its tacticool. i see no reason for ranger plates(man up pull that mag out sissy) enhanced trigger gaurds never seen anybody who has fingers to big to fit into the stock trigger gaurd. as for windows in your mag you know when your out of ammo when your bolt dosent slam shut. i can tell a empty mag by its weight. i can go on an on i really think magpul makes all that crap because there is more mall ninjas out there then there are anything else
                              You think Magpul came up with the range plate idea? Soldiers were using "magpuls" on their mags to pull them from their vests easier. It was usually duct tape and fabric or cord, instead of a commercial rubber/polymer that Magpul now makes.

                              Enhanced trigger guard is nice when wearing gloves, and when you have a B.A.D. lever. Is it needed? Nah, but it's just another ergo piece that helps some people.

                              You think their pMags are crap too? Funny, cause they're the best mags on the market as far as I'm concerned. Sure, the window on their new mags is kinda useless, but I don't buy those anyway.

                              As for the rest of their products. It's quality stuff, and it works. Most of it was born from necessity, like the AFG/AFG2. You may think it's tacticool and fanboy items, but you'd be dead wrong.
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                              • #60
                                socal425
                                Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 449

                                Originally posted by SERIAL SNIPER
                                only 3000 rounds fired i think i did about 2000 that day. the sights melted around the base where it contacts the gas block. the gas block has the same center line as the upper reciever
                                Hey Sniper...I didn't need 2000 rounds to hit my targets.
                                Last edited by socal425; 07-05-2011, 10:28 AM.
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