Shooting range and restricted people?

[Librarian]

I am not sure the code would be violated by a person who supplies a gun for target shooting in the gun owner's presence, it is all on the felon, or whatever.

Nope. Bad medicine for the lender:

Penal Code 27500 is the prohibition on transfer to ineligibles:

(a) No person, corporation, or firm shall knowingly sell, supply,
deliver, or give possession or control of a firearm to any person
within any of the classes prohibited by Chapter 2 (commencing with
Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of
Division 9.

Violation is punished according to Penal Code 27590

(b) If any of the following circumstances apply, a violation of
this article is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for
two, three, or four years.
(1) If the violation is of subdivision (a) of Section 27500.

[a1c]

Nope. Bad medicine for the lender:

Penal Code 27500 is the prohibition on transfer to ineligibles:


Violation is punished according to Penal Code 27590

Operating word is "knowingly."

[thatsteveguy]

Got my answers; thanks Librarian and all who posted. I'll have to ask my friend if her husbands restriction to firearms is her doing or his. If it's his doing and he's restricted by the court; he won't be going to the range with me anytime soon!

[SPUTTER]

Why not? He can watch and pick your brass while you shoot.

[Librarian]

Operating word is "knowingly."

Truth, and I bet very difficult to prove.

OTOH, having read this thread ...

[Flyin Brian]

I've got a similar situation that comes up every so often. I have an acquaintance who knows I shoot and he has a felony conviction from many years ago. Every single time I run into this guy, he begs me to take him shooting! Every time I ask "aren't you prohibited from being around firearms?" and he says "gee, I don't think so, I think I just can't own one" so I say "well I guess you should check it out and make sure it's ok" and that never happens. It gets very tiring to go through the same conversation the once a month or so that we run into each other. I know I would never take a chance of shooting with him and possibly end up with both of us being felons or something

The guy really is a good guy and has completely turned his life around, BTW.

[Turbinator]

Got my answers; thanks Librarian and all who posted. I'll have to ask my friend if her husbands restriction to firearms is her doing or his. If it's his doing and he's restricted by the court; he won't be going to the range with me anytime soon!

There's got to be a better way to get to know this guy without risking the long arm of the law. Why not invite him out for a couple of drinks instead?

Turby

[bjl333]

Truth, and I bet very difficult to prove.

OTOH, having read this thread ...

So if someone comes to the skeet clinic, how do I know if he is allowed to shoot?!?!?

[ubet]

Maybe he is not allowed because she does not want him to. I know of a couple like that, the guy wants a gun and has no criminal record, but the wife refuses to let him own one.

Balls, he needs to get some.

[repubconserv]

So if someone comes to the skeet clinic, how do I know if he is allowed to shoot?!?!?

I think you aren't liable if you don't know he can't possess firearms... just if you knew he couldn't but lent them anyways... as I understand it

(a) No person, corporation, or firm shall knowingly sell, supply,
deliver, or give possession or control of a firearm to any person
within any of the classes prohibited by Chapter 2 (commencing with
Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of
Division 9.

unless you did a Background check, I don't think you could know

[paul0660]

That Librarian guy is GOOD.

[repubconserv]

That Librarian guy is GOOD.

Seriously. I don't know how he finds stuff in PC so quick, it takes me 20 minutes to find what I'm looking for... and on some of it a good deal of thinking to understand that it is what I needed to find

[Librarian]

That Librarian guy is GOOD.

Seriously. I don't know how he finds stuff in PC so quick, it takes me 20 minutes to find what I'm looking for... and on some of it a good deal of thinking to understand that it is what I needed to find

Thanks - in this case, I had just done the research for the felon/black-powder thread, and all the links were in my post there.

Just now the re-numbering of the PC is making me crazy; I kind of had the 12000 block (dangerous weapon control laws) organized in my head, but the new numbers are not there yet.

If you would read the darn things pretty much daily for 8 years, you'd know them too ....

(Now, where's my wallet?)

[lear60man]

Or you can wait the appropriate amount of time and go through the expungement process.

[Merc1138]

If you would read the darn things pretty much daily for 8 years, you'd know them too ....

(Now, where's my wallet?)

Yeah... I've also noticed that coming across the same questions with the same answers over and over again I've started remembering PC sections also.