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  • thatsteveguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1674

    Shooting range and restricted people?

    I'm friends with a lady from church and wanting to get to know her husband better suggested to her that maybe he would like to join me at the range. She replied that he's not allowed to own any firearms and so I didn't pursue the idea further. My question is; can someone who did something in the past that prevents them from owning a firearm, use one that's not theirs at a shooting range here in CA?
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  • #2
    Jyruiz
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2045

    Maybe he is not allowed because she does not want him to. I know of a couple like that, the guy wants a gun and has no criminal record, but the wife refuses to let him own one.

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    • #3
      dieselpower
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 11471

      no. they can not use a firearm for any reason...unless they are rich and famous and on a movie set...then they can use one for filming.

      aka...mark wahlberg

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      • #4
        Will Goes Boing
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 240

        Do something else besides shooting? No matter what though, do NOT go have a one on one dinner with him.

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        • #5
          evidens83
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2009
          • 7839

          How would the shooting range know if he's prohibited or not
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          • #6
            repubconserv
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 3056

            Originally posted by evidens83
            How would the shooting range know if he's prohibited or not
            If something were to happen and the police got involved... and they found out OP was lending his gun to a prohibited person... you probably would then have two prohibited persons

            Probably nothing would happen, but it's the "what if" that says do not let a prohibited person use your gun

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            • #7
              paul0660
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2007
              • 15669

              you probably would then have two prohibited persons
              I am not sure the code would be violated by a person who supplies a gun for target shooting in the gun owner's presence, it is all on the felon, or whatever. However, having been advised by the wife, it should be a non issue.
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              • #8
                Peter W Bush
                Calguns Supreme Overlord
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2009
                • 4727

                I know a guy that got busted because of a shooting range. He was a prohibited person because of probation, and went to the range with his buddies just to have a good time. Cost him about $10k and 30 days of his life. He still doesn't know how the police found out.
                Will trade liquor/wine/beer for parts and accesories and ammo! PM me. Dont drink n shoot. Offer void where prohibited. Must be 21 or older, etc. etc.

                Originally posted by TURBOELKY
                Well, glad you got the kit anyways, I'm sure I'll fondle it a little in the near future..... oh God, that's going to be in somebody's signature....:D
                Originally posted by TURBOELKY
                put me in line, but if Peter W. Bush takes it, I need to be removed from his Signature line.......:D

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                • #9
                  repubconserv
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 3056

                  Originally posted by paul0660
                  I am not sure the code would be violated by a person who supplies a gun for target shooting in the gun owner's presence, it is all on the felon, or whatever. However, having been advised by the wife, it should be a non issue.
                  I would think there is some sort of "aiding and abetting" law that applies to letting a felon take possession of your gun, even if under your supervision. Isn't there a CA law that says the owner of a stolen gun is liable if that gun is used in a crime?

                  But hey what do I know? who has PC on this?

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                  • #10
                    Dead*Reckoned
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 2643

                    Originally posted by repubconserv
                    I would think there is some sort of "aiding and abetting" law that applies to letting a felon take possession of your gun, even if under your supervision. Isn't there a CA law that says the owner of a stolen gun is liable if that gun is used in a crime?

                    But hey what do I know? who has PC on this?
                    Theres no way! That would be ridiculous!

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                    • #11
                      repubconserv
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3056

                      Originally posted by Dead*Reckoned
                      Theres no way! That would be ridiculous!
                      Maybe I was thinking about stupid laws that could be? I am quite sure though that people tell each other on these forums to "legally disassociate" themselves from the weapon that was stolen... am I not correct?

                      I will repeat: who has PC on this? I can't find it
                      Last edited by repubconserv; 06-20-2011, 5:13 PM.

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                      • #12
                        a1c
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 9098

                        Originally posted by evidens83
                        How would the shooting range know if he's prohibited or not
                        They don't. Las Vegas ranges routinely loan firearms to foreign tourists even though they are prohibited persons - not permanent residents nor state-licensed hunters.

                        It's a grey area in many cases. Some ranges make you sign releases where you certify you are not a prohibited person, but many don't ask for anything else but a driver's license.
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                        • #13
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471

                          Originally posted by repubconserv
                          I would think there is some sort of "aiding and abetting" law that applies to letting a felon take possession of your gun, even if under your supervision. Isn't there a CA law that says the owner of a stolen gun is liable if that gun is used in a crime?

                          But hey what do I know? who has PC on this?
                          you are thinking of the neglectful owner rulings.

                          you leave a gun where a child can get to it and that kid discharges it, you are liable. if they hurt someone you are responsible.

                          If a person steals your firearm, there are rulings I have read where how the gun was stolen does come into question...negligence is negligence.

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                          • #14
                            repubconserv
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 3056

                            Originally posted by dieselpower
                            you are thinking of the neglectful owner rulings.

                            you leave a gun where a child can get to it and that kid discharges it, you are liable. if they hurt someone you are responsible.

                            If a person steals your firearm, there are rulings I have read where how the gun was stolen does come into question...negligence is negligence.
                            I see, thank you for clearing that up

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                            • #15
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 44646

                              Originally posted by evidens83
                              How would the shooting range know if he's prohibited or not
                              HE would know, or should know.

                              It's a felony, if he's prohibited because of a felony conviction. PC 29800
                              (a) (1) Any person who has been convicted of a felony under the laws
                              of the United States, the State of California, or any other state,
                              government, or country, or of an offense enumerated in subdivision
                              (a), (b), or (d) of Section 23515, or who is addicted to the use of
                              any narcotic drug, and who owns, purchases, receives, or has in
                              possession or under custody or control any firearm is guilty of a
                              felony.
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