leo only handguns

[nine mil thrill]

once a person is issued a ccw, should'nt the ccw holder be afforded the same privilage of purchasing handguns that are leo only ?? i would think that if a person is deemed the right to carry a lethal handgun concealed, that would far outweigh ant reason to not let him carry one. (example: why should i not be allowed to purchase a ruger lcp and carry it concealed ?)

[MrClamperSir]

once a person is issued a ccw, should'nt the ccw holder be afforded the same privilage of purchasing handguns that are leo only ?? i would think that if a person is deemed the right to carry a lethal handgun concealed, that would far outweigh ant reason to not let him carry one. (example: why should i not be allowed to purchase a ruger lcp and carry it concealed ?)

You don't have a union backing to afford you these same privileges.

Also, it makes too much sense and therefore, in this state it's likely not within the scope of possible (at least at this point in time).

From what I hear around these parts, there are people working on a resolution to this very problem.

[Call_me_Tom]

The logic behind this is that a firearm is a tool of trade for LEO's, your CCW is strictly for your personal protection.

^^^I don't agree with the above but I guarantee that is the argument that will be used.

[MrClamperSir]

The logic behind this is that a firearm is a tool of trade for LEO's, your CCW is strictly for your personal protection.

A firearm is a tool to be used for personal protection. A CCW is a piece of paper permitting an individual to carry said firearm for protection.

Besides, you don't need the exemption to buy the "tools of the trade", standard full frame pistols. You do need it to buy the smaller frame pistols that are carried by off duty officers for their personal protection.

^^^I don't agree with the above but I guarantee that is the argument that will be used.

What exactly do you not agree with?

[bombadillo]

I don't agree with the LEO being able to carry a potentially "Better" tool than I can only for the sake that they are LEO. They are able to carry "unsafe" (according to the roster) weapons while us lowly citizens are only able to carry what the state has said was OK based on the fact that the black one was "tested" and the brown one was not. Its absurdity at its finest.

[SVT-40]

once a person is issued a ccw, should'nt the ccw holder be afforded the same privilage of purchasing handguns that are leo only ?? i would think that if a person is deemed the right to carry a lethal handgun concealed, that would far outweigh ant reason to not let him carry one. (example: why should i not be allowed to purchase a ruger lcp and carry it concealed ?)

It's a stupid law to begin with... CCW or not.

A handgun is a handgun.

The "list" is a tool more to mess with FFL dealers than gun owners.

I'm sure the list will go away in the future sometime.

[yzErnie]

You don't have a union backing to afford you these same privileges.

From what I hear around these parts, there are people working on a resolution to this very problem.

Unions didn't have anything to do with the law. The uninformed and 'bending to special interest' law makers made that law. The law was flawed from the start and every attempt people made to correct it fell on deaf ears.

To the OP, the law was not written with the thought of containing exemptions for all the good citizens in our state. Flawed logic...as is the case with most of the shenanigans that happen in Sacramento.

[MrClamperSir]

Unions didn't have anything to do with the law.

So who was it that pushed the exemption for LE?

[USMC 82-86]

I think most gun laws with regards to certain handguns are just plain stupid. I believe if you can legally own a firearm and they are in any market you should be able to own one.

Is there a difference in me owning a S&W 500 vs a pocket pistol. I can tell you if someone has the intent to do great harm to someone, they will carry out that intent with any weapon available. These laws as far as I know are not adhered to by criminals.

[rockman]

Yea talk about stupid, I have my ccw and can carry 3 guns and loads of loaded mags in my truck, but when I go to the shooting range with guns not on my ccw permit, they have to be locked up. Talk about a stupid law. People that make these laws must be super smart(NOT).

[Cokebottle]

No such thing as "LEO-only"

There are guns that only LE can purchase from a dealer, but anyone can buy any handgun (that is not otherwise an AW/NFA item) from a private party or via consignment sale.
They may also personally import them as a new California resident if they purchased them while a resident of another state.

[yzErnie]

So who was it that pushed the exemption for LE?

Our elected state and local officials.

[MrClamperSir]

Our elected state and local officials.

If that is the case it was already a given that pressure would come if an exemption wasn't offered from the begining, sort of a business as usaual thing.

[TrailerparkTrash]

No ot wasnt business as usual. As stated, it was the autbor of the flawed bill to begin with that thought he was doing cops a favor by exempting them.

Sadly, like good citizens of Cali, cops too are bared from many weapons, unless they have permission to own them (ie AW's). Many departments dont trust their own officers/deputies from possessing certain firearms.

It ticks me off when i see the uninformed and ignorant making assumptions of leo's that simply are not true.

Ill conclude but stating what ive said before in the past; if one feels like cops get a better "break" regarding gun laws, that pwrson could always test and try to become a cop himself.

[yzErnie]

If that is the case it was already a given that pressure would come if an exemption wasn't offered from the begining, sort of a business as usaual thing.

Inaccurate information on your part but that is a topic for another thread.