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  • h.bowman
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 53

    Worst. Customer. Service. Ever.

    I debated posting this, but I was so angry after leaving this store, and this is not the first time. I'll discuss my two most recent experiences at this store, and I'll name the store. Why would I do this?

    Well, I contemplated not naming the store, but stores are often named around here when they do good business or offer good deals. Why shouldn't a store be named if it offers crappy services or some other problem exists?

    The store in question: The Grant Boys aka Grants for Guns in Newport Beach.

    Never again will I set foot in this store, and I'll make it a point to tell anyone I ever have a conversation with to stay away from this store whenever possible.

    Here is what happened to me the last two times I went to Grants.

    Instance #1. I went in on a random weekday morning and it was very slow there. I began to browse guns and the one salesperson was helping me. I held about 2 guns and was about to ask for a third when a man walked in wearing a white doctor's coat. The salesperson dropped me like a bad habit to help this guy. He didn't excuse himself from me, he didn't ask if there was anything more I'd like to see, nothing. He didn't ask another associate to help me, maybe because there were no other associates anywhere around.

    Ultimately, another salesperson came around and basically had me on ignore. I called him over and explained to him what had just happened, and he acted like he could care less.

    Now, I know the gun stores get guys who loiter all the time and never buy anything. But I'm not one of those guys. I rarely go to the gun store, and if I do, I don't usually waste the salesperson's time unless I'm fairly serious and it is decision making time.

    Instance #2: After vowing to never set foot in Grants after the first incident, I chose to go back today because I was in the area. I was open to give them another chance.

    I went up to the counter and began to look at the handguns. I didn't ask for help, I was just looking down and through the glass. There were three guys behind the counter talking guns and looking at the guns. At the point in time I went in, there was nothing on the glass counters preventing my ability to browse.

    As I was looking, one of the men behind the counter grabbed a case with a shotgun in it and almost hit me in the head as he landed it onto the counter I was looking through. He opened the case, completely blocking my view. Understand, I've been there 5 minutes or so and nobody asked if I wanted any help. Now, they've completely blocked my view so I can't look at their inventory. I stood staring at them very pissed off, and none of them seemed to notice. After about 2 minutes glaring at them, which I made real obvious, I said to one of them, "Did anyone even notice that I was looking through that case when you completely blocked my view...does anyone even care about customer service around here" and his response was "It wasn't me who opened the case" and he turned and got back into the conversation with his buddies.

    I stood and stared another minute or two. The other two guys heard me, but still did not acknowledge my presence or my comment.

    I walked out, and none of them ever said another word to me. No inquiry as to whether I could be helped, no apology, nothing.

    So, I'm not sure if a post like this is allowed around here, and if it isn't, my apologies. But it is clear to me from my experiences that they could care less about customer service. Accolades for stores that treat us right are commonplace around here, and I think it only appropriate that when stores fail to live up to even some sort of decent customer service, we are allowed to air it to our gun community.

    Thanks for reading my bitch session. I feel better now.
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    wilit
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 5210

    It seems that some shops are a fraternal order. Unless you're part of the "in crowd" you're just a worthless pile-o-crap. There's a few shops by me that are like that. Then there are a few who are the exact opposite. I have to say, Irvington Arms is the friendliest gun store I've been to.
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    • #3
      jtv3062
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2749

      I dont blame you after reading that. somtimes our money is not green enough for some
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      • #4
        jmlivingston
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 5095

        Grant Boy's? Not worth the effort or time to go down there.... I've been in twice I think, lousy service both times and a terrible selection.

        John

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        • #5
          toolman9000
          Senioritis
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 859

          I haven't been to Grant Boy's since 1998, I bought a S&W model 60 for a great price then when I went back to buy another revolver a month ot two later they didn't want to look up the cost of the gun because it was a special order (Acusport had it in stock)... so the guy behind the counter just quoted me a price out of the air, $400 more than what Stockade was selling it for.

          So, as the story goes - no more Grant Boys for me.

          -toolman9000
          "Apparently the kids at the 4-H club that raised my turkey must have fed this bastard snickers bars, muscle milk and, presumably, smaller turkeys." - Tom Mylan

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          • #6
            tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            I try to make it a point to acknowledge everyone who comes in the shop. I feel bad when we are so busy it is hard to do that or guys have to wait. I would kill for more floor space. When I visted Irvington Arms a few months ago, I would have died for that much floor space! And they probably don't consider themselves big.

            Anyway, sometimes I do skip from one customer to another because the guy I am getting started on DROS is going to take a while compared to the guy who wants two boxes of ammo. I always try to excuse myself and sometimes it is just plain hard when you only have one to two employees in the hole in the wall shop and two to seven customers.
            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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            • #7
              FortCourageArmory
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 1001

              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
              I always try to excuse myself and sometimes it is just plain hard when you only have one to two employees in the hole in the wall shop and two to seven customers.
              Amen, brother. Some days you'd kill to have someone walk through the door and others you need roller skates to keep up with the flow of traffic.
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              • #8
                dfletcher
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2006
                • 14787

                Your experience at Grants mirrors mine at Traders - haven't been there in about 3 years and although I don't like to see a good FFL lose its license they were overall and consistently the worst customer service crew I've been around. I went back a few times to give them the proverbial 2nd shot, they were always bad.
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                • #9
                  Sam Hainn
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 657

                  This was all rude of them, but sorry, not the worst customer service I've heard of. It sounds like you got treated poorly in one of those kind of shops run by a retired guy or someone out of their regular job on disbaility, opened up a store to keep up his hobby. You go in as a customer and it's like "DON'T TOUCH MY GUNS! OH! YOU WANT TO BUY MY FAVORITE GLOCK, DO YA? OK, THAT ONE IS $750. NO YOU SMART-ALEC KID, TAX IS NOT INCLUDED. OF COURSE IT'S USED AND NO IT DOESN'T COME WITH NIGHT SIGHTS! ANY ACCESSORIES? YA, ONE MAG! NO, NO BOX! GEEZ, KID, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS? A FREE-FOR-ALL? AND HEY, WATCH IT, DON'T LEAN SO FAR ONTO THE COUNTER, YOU'LL SPILL MY BEER! DAMN KIDS! ".
                  Last edited by Sam Hainn; 09-04-2007, 8:34 PM.
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                  • #10
                    rkt88edmo
                    Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10058

                    3 is the magic number, I think you'll go back
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                    • #11
                      VeryCoolCat
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11275

                      Maybe someone will read this say something to someone and some action will be taken.

                      but then again.... maybe I'll win the lottery.
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                      Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                      • #12
                        h.bowman
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 53

                        Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
                        Maybe someone will read this say something to someone and some action will be taken.

                        but then again.... maybe I'll win the lottery.

                        Which is one reason I didn't want to let my experience go unheard. It was obvious that the people there didn't care that I was upset. Perhaps other consumers will care a little more, and steer clear of the place based upon my experience. Hitting their wallet is the only way to make a point.

                        And as for the other comments, I think The Stockade is the best store when it comes to customer service and inventory. Their prices are always MSRP and then some. So, they are not competitive as far as pricing. However, I like to shop there and when you are doing a layaway plan (as I often like to do with gun purchases) the $100 or $200 charged over MSRP isn't that big of a deal, especially when it is obvious that they care that you are there.

                        +1 for The Stockade.

                        And no, I will NEVER go into Grants again, and I'll advise everyone I know to stay away as well.

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                        • #13
                          toolman9000
                          Senioritis
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 859

                          Nothing wrong with the Stockade at all... their prices are high though. But, the Fowler/Stockade combo are solid. I haven't been to Stockade in a while, but they use to have the absolute best selection of Galco leather products you have ever seen - it was like a whole room of Galco, floor to ceiling. Got my first tuxedo rig there.
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                          • #14
                            Hk996
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 659

                            Ever since I found this site people have talked about the service at Ade's... I've since been there and had people I know go there for guns... there service is the best in OC. May be small, but he is very attentive to your needs. So, I would say, you should go there, especially after your experience at Grant's.
                            kevin.

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                            • #15
                              Moonclip
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 4390

                              I have probably bought like 20 guns at Grant Boys in the last 6-7 years and I'm still treated rather crapppily by most of the help. The owner is ok usually though and a newer employee was nice. One particulary bad offender is gone though.

                              it seems having a blonde/blue eyed anglo-saxon or monied appearance helps here as well as being in the "in" crowd. I have heard the employees here discussing calling in people on deals before most of the general population gets to see what hits the consignment cases.

                              Oh, also unless things have changed, they charge a 40% consignment rate here!
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