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  • Californio
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2006
    • 4169

    Gentlemen Secure your Arms

    "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez
  • #2
    mike100
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 2507

    I spent some years storing a couple of handguns in a bag tucked away, but when I went on a long gun binge, I bought a $200 job-site locking tool cabinet for the garage (the ones with the pockets to prevent bolt cutters from getting to the master locks). It sufficed until I bought something a lot heavier. I kept ammo in there as well to make it really heavy.

    I have had a break-in before and I spent a little to get secure right away, but I can't explain why I took chances with those 2 handguns for a decade. I was more worried about a roommates kid finding them (they had the locks) than losing them I guess.

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    • #3
      rod
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 2245

      I'm working on building a gun rack for my den that will be able to lock the guns as well as display them. I'll post some pics when I'm done. While I was designing it, I thought of several cheap ways to secure firearms. A good cable ran through the trigger guards and a stud in the wall, locked with a solid lock would be enough to keep most tweakers from running off with your guns. If it's a professional that's breaking into your house, you might as well leave your guns stacked up and ready to transport because nothing is going to stop a pro. The other reason you would want to lock up your firearms is to keep them out of the hands of unsupervised children. Again, simple is cheap and effective. Gun safes are nice and I'll probably get a couple one of these days. Until then, there are many other ways to lock your guns up to keep them out of the hands of dumb criminals.
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      • #4
        VeryCoolCat
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2006
        • 11275

        I keep my guns invisible despite being easily accessable. I used to store my SKS in my box spring. I cut a hole into the box spring and it sat inside the wooden portion of the box spring.

        Short of tearing it up, you wouldn't know it was there. As for me living on the top floor of an apartment with practically NO room to place a small safe. Any safe I get would have to be less than 100 lbs and would be loosely bolted down.

        My C&R's are disassembled for storage. Though I doubt a gang banger/crook would rob someone with a mosin nagant or turkish mauser. Kinda hard to do a drive by with a bolt action

        All my guns are accessible but not easy to find. I've had people come over and not know they were inches from a gun
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
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        Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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        • #5
          chiefcrash
          Internet Dictator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jul 2006
          • 3408



          there you have it folks. A genuine CA DOJ approved gun safe for $100 and 15 minutes work. It is by no means the best, but it should stop the smash and grab types...
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
          Originally posted by TKM
          Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
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          It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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          • #6
            EastBayRidge
            Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 480

            I do have a CA approved safe, but when traveling I'll usually remove the bolts or some other operating parts of my firearms and stow them @ a friend's house.
            Leave the cannoli, take the gun.

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            • #7
              DedEye
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2006
              • 8655

              Originally posted by chiefcrash
              http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...equestid=57870

              there you have it folks. A genuine CA DOJ approved gun safe for $100 and 15 minutes work. It is by no means the best, but it should stop the smash and grab types...
              Quite honestly I don't think it would even stop the smash and grab types. That thing is like a school locker in terms of thickness and security. I was thinking about getting one of those for all the above mentioned reasons but couldn't because it's just too weak.
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              Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

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              • #8
                Sam Hainn
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 657

                Originally posted by Californio
                ... A $300.00 cabinet is all it takes.
                No, it doesn't. Get a full-fledged weighty safe if just one of those cheaper Home Depot Sentry models. they run about $400. Those cabinets are as easy to open as a cheap locking lunch-box. Bicycle locks are harder to defeat than those cabinets.
                "No throwing live ammunition into bonfires on runs."

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                • #9
                  MudCamper
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4595

                  Originally posted by DedEye
                  Quite honestly I don't think it would even stop the smash and grab types. That thing is like a school locker in terms of thickness and security.
                  It will stop the smash and grap types, if you take a few additional precautions. I have a cheap gun cabinet from Walmart. First, I bolted it to the floor, and the wall behind it. It's in a closet, so I bolted angle iron along both edges to both walls along side it. Then I put 2 deadbolts on the closet door in front of it. (I have an old house with solid wood doors.) All this including the cabinet cost less than 200 bucks.

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                  • #10
                    NSR500
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 19530

                    What kinda bugs me is how people get their firearms stolen at the range. If one of the Cardinal rules of firearms is to treat each one as if it is loaded; Why would you leave it around unsupervised?

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                    • #11
                      metalhead357
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 5546

                      DONT dellude yourselves....do it right; get a DECENT safe; we've a new guy on the forum all about safes. And even he has links to videos to show just how freakin' easy it is to get into *most* safes. ANYTHING, even the locking cabinets ARE better than nothing but DONT go thinking you're fort knox and everything is A++ with a cheaper safe....it aint.

                      But I FULLY agree...if you wanna play...you gotta pay; and with guns that DOES mean proper security for them when they're not in your hand.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                      I am not a number! I am a free man

                      1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                      2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                      3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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                      • #12
                        DedEye
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 8655

                        Originally posted by metalhead357
                        DONT dellude yourselves....do it right; get a DECENT safe; we've a new guy on the forum all about safes. And even he has links to videos to show just how freakin' easy it is to get into *most* safes. ANYTHING, even the locking cabinets ARE better than nothing but DONT go thinking you're fort knox and everything is A++ with a cheaper safe....it aint.

                        But I FULLY agree...if you wanna play...you gotta pay; and with guns that DOES mean proper security for them when they're not in your hand.
                        I just spoke to Ken on the phone today, amazingly helpful guy and extremely friendly and knowledgable. He told me the Sentry safes are fairly decent


                        Take a look at this gun cabinet/"safe." You can see the locking mechanism in this picture; it isn't a deadbolt or anything close. I saw one of these in person once and was amazed at how flimsy looking and feeling it was; you could literally open it with a screwdriver, even if that meant prying it open.

                        Compare that to a cheap Sentry, and you can see the difference in quality. Now this safe does warrant bolting to the ground since the steel is at least thick enough to not buckle when you lean on it. Ken mentioned that the lock should be replaced, but hopefully he'll chime in with the info on that so I don't screw it up from my memory.

                        Originally posted by MudCamper
                        It will stop the smash and grap types, if you take a few additional precautions. I have a cheap gun cabinet from Walmart. First, I bolted it to the floor, and the wall behind it. It's in a closet, so I bolted angle iron along both edges to both walls along side it. Then I put 2 deadbolts on the closet door in front of it. (I have an old house with solid wood doors.) All this including the cabinet cost less than 200 bucks.
                        If your cabinet is anything like the one I linked to, the angle iron was superfluous and unnecessary, as was the bolting since any thief wouldn't need to take the safe with them to get it open quickly.
                        These posts are Fiction. They do not contain legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Any resemblance to real persons are pure coincidence. These posts may pose an inhalation hazard, reading can be harmful or fatal. No statements made on this forum are meant to represent any corporate or business entity, others, or myself. Especially not myself.

                        Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

                        Why yes, that is me in my avatar and yes, I AM wearing a life jacket.

                        WTS Keltec P11

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                        • #13
                          metalhead357
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5546

                          Interesting he said that sentry safe......there's a lota guys on other boards that think they're crap and *only* about one notch above the other secuity cabinet you posted. No offense to sentry owners just telling ya' the wares from other boards with members who've owned them and traded up.

                          I'll have to poke around again later and see what's what with the Sentry on the other boards being easily defeatable....... my take from years of safe owning(s) and friends with the same....and even *just cabinets*of years andyears ago; you aint gonna *be into a SAFE* for anything less than about $700 if you wanna put a rifle into it.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                          I am not a number! I am a free man

                          1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                          2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                          3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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                          • #14
                            jc_stecker
                            Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 213

                            +1

                            I made sure to buy a security container before buying my gun.
                            Well let me tell you, son, war isn't hell. War is mall. Shopping mall.

                            -Gecko45

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                            • #15
                              mrsr71
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 121

                              Originally posted by chiefcrash
                              http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...equestid=57870

                              there you have it folks. A genuine CA DOJ approved gun safe for $100 and 15 minutes work. It is by no means the best, but it should stop the smash and grab types...
                              I can get into this in less than 10 seconds!

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