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  • #31
    drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2219

    Those of you storing your ammo in the garage, I'm curious. Aren't you concerned about the effect of our warm summers on your ammo? Or do you 'rotate' the stock so frequently that it's not an issue?
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    • #32
      Cokebottle
      Seņor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      Originally posted by drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
      Those of you storing your ammo in the garage, I'm curious. Aren't you concerned about the effect of our warm summers on your ammo? Or do you 'rotate' the stock so frequently that it's not an issue?
      What's it gonna do?
      Moisture isn't a problem even if you submerge it for a short time.
      Heat isn't going to cause it to "cook off" unless it gets well over 300 degrees.

      Contrary to myth, ammo generally doesn't degrade as it ages (within reason). People are still today buying "spam cans" of ammo that was packaged for the military 40 years ago.
      - Rich

      Originally posted by dantodd
      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #33
        seanbo
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1161

        I got some from 60 years ago. I think that a fire would be the major problem for most of us. Because of that I have been thinking of an outside storage option.

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        • #34
          Dutch3
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2010
          • 14181

          Originally posted by coyotebait
          I converted my old Stack-on gun cabinet into an ammo cabinet. I removed the foam rubber and added wood shelving.
          I have one of those. Unfortunately, it is still housing my guns. When I obtain a decent safe, the cabinet will be used for ammo storage.

          I am just looking for ideas for ammo storage using what I already have or can easily find. I guess ammo cans, trunks and toolboxes will work for now.

          I saw these PLANO Sports Lockers...does anyone here use them? My experience with plastic storage devices has not been the best, although I do have one surviving "Action Packer" storage tub that is still going strong after 20+ years.
          Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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          • #35
            Dutch3
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2010
            • 14181

            Originally posted by Cokebottle
            The cats are pretty sneaky, and they don't care who you are, friend or foe.

            Anyone coming in and not knowing about them will never make it up the stairs because the cats will run up to them and flop down on the stair step just as they are about to put their foot down. They've taken me out more than once.
            Yeah, you have to wonder about "loyalty" with these instinctively defensive animals.

            The first chihuahua we got is still the smallest of the bunch, but she rules the roost. She got hold of my lip once (my fault) and put the hurt on me. What can you do.

            Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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            • #36
              jgraham7897
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 682

              Holy crap! I just took a bite of dinner when the picture came up and I am now cleaning rice off my desk and the floor.

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              • #37
                rdmmdr
                Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 154

                For forty dollars take a hallway closet and put a dead bolt on it with security hinges that should keep the kids out. I keep about 4000 rd of 12 ga and about 5000 rounds of rifle mixed plus 2000-3000 of 22 and about 1000 of 357 plus powder for reloading, black powder for the rockets, and rocket propellant.
                legally loaded rounds in a house don't count, loose powder does under nfpa I believe the rule is twenty for smokeless and five for black without a magazine while i do have two magazines for powder and rocket propellant I stay under those rules so the atf and the fire marshall does not have to get involved. Detached buildings each get their own allowances for storage but not for total personal possession rules.

                Have fun
                Rick

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                • #38
                  drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2219

                  Ammo Storage

                  Originally posted by Cokebottle
                  What's it gonna do?
                  Moisture isn't a problem even if you submerge it for a short time.
                  Heat isn't going to cause it to "cook off" unless it gets well over 300 degrees.

                  Contrary to myth, ammo generally doesn't degrade as it ages (within reason). People are still today buying "spam cans" of ammo that was packaged for the military 40 years ago.
                  I'm not worried about moisture or "cooking off"; if it's that hot, the house is on fire and we've bigger problems.

                  No, my concern is powder/primer deterioration due to temperature swings. I know in my gargage in the summer, the temp can change from the 60's in the morning to over 100 during the middle of the day. The typical recommendation I've see from powder manufacturers for years is "Store in a ventilated, cool, dry place."

                  As you correctly pointed out, we buy and shoot ammo that is 40+ years old and there is no problem with it. I agree; however, I suspect it was stored for most of that time in a cool dry place, not in a California garage. Not that I'm suggesting someone would store ammo, powder or primers in their garage for 40 years.
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                  • #39
                    Cokebottle
                    Seņor Member
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                    The typical recommendation I've see from powder manufacturers for years is "Store in a ventilated, cool, dry place."
                    But there is a difference between "powder" and powder that has been loaded into a cartridge and sealed with a bullet.

                    It's not very well ventilated
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                    • #40
                      SantaCabinetguy
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 15137

                      Originally posted by Cokebottle
                      7.62 and 50 cal ammo boxes on the closet floor.
                      Boxes are marked with their caliber with P-Touch Labels
                      Almost the same!
                      Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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                      • #41
                        drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2219

                        Ammo Storage

                        Thanks to all for this thread and your responses. Thanks to you, I have now convinced my wife that the paultry 5 - 6,000 rounds of reloads I have (not counting the 22 LR) is nothing compared to some of my peers.
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                        "I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything; but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."
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                        • #42
                          G1500
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1825

                          Originally posted by drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                          Thanks to all for this thread and your responses. Thanks to you, I have now convinced my wife that the paultry 5 - 6,000 rounds of reloads I have (not counting the 22 LR) is nothing compared to some of my peers.

                          We have about 15-20 cases (5000 rounds per case) of .22lr at our shop, even then, I know guys who have pallets of ammo in storage.

                          Tell her to buy you more ammo :P

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                          • #43
                            xrMike
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 7841

                            Boy am I feeling inadequate! I see all these pics of you guys marking your 50 cal ammo cans with computer-generated labels, or fancy label-maker labels, and here I am using torn off pieces of duct tape and a sharpie on mine:

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                            • #44
                              xrMike
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 7841

                              Then there's the CMP:



                              Pallets, a warehouse, and a forklift!

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                              • #45
                                drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2219

                                Ammo Storage

                                Originally posted by xrMike
                                Boy am I feeling inadequate! I see all these pics of you guys marking your 50 cal ammo cans with computer-generated labels, or fancy label-maker labels, and here I am using torn off pieces of duct tape and a sharpie on mine:
                                Inadequate?! Geeezzzzz! I'm feeling downright depressed!
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                                "I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything; but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."
                                Edward Everett Hale

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