Why the Appleseed a Message for Calgunners

[Eljay]

Nice. What did it take to install the sites? I've been wondering how involved it is.

The rear sight is trivial. It just screws into the receiver where you would screw in a scope. The front sight can be trickier just because you have to get the existing one out (more on that later). Then you just slide or tap the new one in and set some set screws.

To get the front sight out you bang it out with a punch and hammer (going a specific direction - it's tapered). Some of them come out really easily. Some are basically not going anywhere and there are some assorted tricks you can ask about if it comes to that. The absolute worse case would be to basically just cut it out - the sight's soft aluminum.

[ElvenSoul]

There is a very ugly but easy slip on m14 style front sight for 10/22..find it at eabco

[ElvenSoul]

Make friends with a carpet installer they throw out suitable matting all the time...I know used to be one.

[DasBoost]

I'm posting here because this seems to be the best source of info, so a few questions:

-I have a K31 Id like to use; can I use the chargers instead of box mags?
-I have found the AQTs, but not the actual requirements or scores, anyone have these?
-I have not taken the rifle out for a shakedown yet, about how many rounds should I put through it for it to be considered good to go? (I read anywhere between 100 and "a few hundred")
- Is the USGI sling required?

TIA, any info is much appreciated. I am interested in becoming a better shot and the Sac events are only about an hour or so away. Really want to try and make one this year!

[Eljay]

I've only been to one, but I'll give your questions a shot.

I would assume they'd be fine with any kind of stripper clips otherwise you couldn't use all kinds of guns.

The rifleman score is 210 out of 250. Note that you double the points on the fourth stage so if they don't seem to add up to 250, that's why.

I would think if you've run 100 rounds through a bolt action and nothing bad has happened you're good to go. With something like, say, a semiautomatic rimfire you would want to run more rounds through.

"Required" is a little strong but a lot of the instruction revolves around the sling.

[as_rocketman]

-I have a K31 Id like to use; can I use the chargers instead of box mags?

Absolutely you can. You can even single-load if you want, but you'll get tighter groups without breaking position so much. Three stripper clips of 5 each should be enough.

-I have found the AQTs, but not the actual requirements or scores, anyone have these?

The course of fire for the AQT is like this: Stage 1 is offhand, two minutes, ten rounds in the big target, no required magazine change / reload. Stage 2 is transition from standing to sitting, five rounds in each of the second row of targets, 55 second time limit. Requires a magazine change, one mag prepped with 2 and one with 8 is standard. Stage 3 is transition from standing to prone, 3 rounds in the first target, 3 in the second, 4 in the third, 65 second time limit. Same magazine situation as Stage 2. Stage 4 is slow-fire prone, 5 minutes, no required mag change. 2 rounds in each of the left two targets, 3 rounds in each of the right pair.

Scoring is the highest ring cut by the shot, up to 5. Stage 4 counts double. Extra holes in targets subtract the highest scoring shots first. Rifleman score is 210 or higher, maximum possible is 250.

-I have not taken the rifle out for a shakedown yet, about how many rounds should I put through it for it to be considered good to go? (I read anywhere between 100 and "a few hundred")

Up to you. As long as you're confident in your equipment and your ability to use it under time pressure, and you've got it zeroed, you'll do fine.

- Is the USGI sling required?

No sling is required. Appleseed is "run what you brung." However, a sling is highly recommended, and we find the USGI cotton web sling is one of the best, and one of the cheapest.

[DasBoost]

Thanks a lot!!!

I've only been to one, but I'll give your questions a shot.

I would assume they'd be fine with any kind of stripper clips otherwise you couldn't use all kinds of guns.

The rifleman score is 210 out of 250. Note that you double the points on the fourth stage so if they don't seem to add up to 250, that's why.

I would think if you've run 100 rounds through a bolt action and nothing bad has happened you're good to go. With something like, say, a semiautomatic rimfire you would want to run more rounds through.

"Required" is a little strong but a lot of the instruction revolves around the sling.

Absolutely you can. You can even single-load if you want, but you'll get tighter groups without breaking position so much. Three stripper clips of 5 each should be enough.



The course of fire for the AQT is like this: Stage 1 is offhand, two minutes, ten rounds in the big target, no required magazine change / reload. Stage 2 is transition from standing to sitting, five rounds in each of the second row of targets, 55 second time limit. Requires a magazine change, one mag prepped with 2 and one with 8 is standard. Stage 3 is transition from standing to prone, 3 rounds in the first target, 3 in the second, 4 in the third, 65 second time limit. Same magazine situation as Stage 2. Stage 4 is slow-fire prone, 5 minutes, no required mag change. 2 rounds in each of the left two targets, 3 rounds in each of the right pair.

Scoring is the highest ring cut by the shot, up to 5. Stage 4 counts double. Extra holes in targets subtract the highest scoring shots first. Rifleman score is 210 or higher, maximum possible is 250.



Up to you. As long as you're confident in your equipment and your ability to use it under time pressure, and you've got it zeroed, you'll do fine.



No sling is required. Appleseed is "run what you brung." However, a sling is highly recommended, and we find the USGI cotton web sling is one of the best, and one of the cheapest.

Thanks for the feedback guys! It is much appreciated. I am considering one of the courses in Sac as a graduation gift for myself, plus I really want to learn basic marksmanship with my rifle. Also, the program seems like a great cause and something I would like to be able to take part in. Thanks again!!

[pennys dad]

Ohh God Lord and Appleseed in the Rain :-) Corona is happening this weekend, it should be fun

[chaoticmind]

The rear sight is trivial. It just screws into the receiver where you would screw in a scope. The front sight can be trickier just because you have to get the existing one out (more on that later). Then you just slide or tap the new one in and set some set screws.

To get the front sight out you bang it out with a punch and hammer (going a specific direction - it's tapered). Some of them come out really easily. Some are basically not going anywhere and there are some assorted tricks you can ask about if it comes to that. The absolute worse case would be to basically just cut it out - the sight's soft aluminum.

Yeah, the rear sight is just two screws. Getting the factory front sight out was no big deal for me but my 10/22 isn't very old. A little gentle tapping is all it took to install the new sight. The Tech Sight is a huge improvement over the factory sights.