Apparently, some paper targets are un-PC

[fabguy]

I guess you have to buy caucasian targets instead?

ROFLMAO

[Massan]

[Hector]

When someone tells me that what I'm doing is not politically correct, I just tell them I'm not in politics.

Then they tey to explain....and I do the "why" routine. Fun fun!

[Decoligny]

How about setting up a single sheet, double target, one marked 25 yards, and another 1/4 sized one above it marked 100 yards. It is simply a way to practice closer and longer distance markmanship without having to change targets.

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[Decoligny]

I see it as the slow slipping into tougher gun laws.

It is currently ILLEGAL in Massachusetts to shoot at targets that depict the human form.

[rero360]

Actually there is more to it. A little knowledge here might be instructive.

See for example:
"...I agree with the opening statement at the top 100% and it angers me that a book titled "Marksmanship" includes facsimiles of the human form as targets. Incuding being exceedingly distasteful, there are ethical, psychological and legal issues that make the use of the human form as a shooting target dangerous. To begin with those who oppose the non-military/non-police use of firearms can use this book as an argument against those who legally use firearms for other purposes therefore supporting their arguments. I am suspicious of the person who has published these targets in this book for that reason and the others you will find below. The purpose of using the human form as a target is to desensitize people to make it easier for them to shoot and possibly kill other humans. I have no intention of ever killing another human, so do not even like seeing a target of the human form. There have been court cases and legal precedents regarding practising shooting on targets representing the human form where premeditation of murder was proven based on this. A case could be make of premeditated murder or attempted murder if there was say, a shooting accident and the defendant had at some time practised shooting at a human form target. I once had a police officer attempt to gift me some human silhouette targets. He had a reputation of being shady. I would like the original contributor to remove the human silhouette targets from the book and replace them with types of targets that were more traditionally used by marksmen or to use more inclusive terminology "sharpshooters". Annie Oakley was definitely a fantastic shot as well as currently Dr. Susan Nattrass, to mention two shooters who are not 'men'... http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Marksmanship

And:

Illegal human silhouette targets
by NSV on Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:21 pm

I know some of you men live in areas where human silhouette targets are illegal. How are these targets defined under your statutes? Is a description given of what makes it a person silhouette, or is human in the eye of the beholder? I need to know for an idea that I have...
CantYouHearMeKnockin wrote: What kind of communist nanny-staters wouldn't let us shoot at targets with people on them? The People's Republic of Massachusetts. On the books. Illegal. http://vps5028.inmotionhosting.com/~...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Here, take a look for yourselves: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Where these quotes to support your own personal view without having to actually state it?

Last week I competed in the Excellence In Competition match at Camp Roberts, if you google the EIC, it has been around pretty much since the beginning of the country. We used human shaped targets, that is their tradition, and I have absolutely no problem with it.

Personally, if I was to design my own targets, not only would they be human shaped with actual features, I would also have an overlay of all the major organs and the circletory system as well. That way I would know exactly where my rounds would hit and what damage to expect if that had been an attacker instead of a target.

In my mind I practice shooting for three reasons, 1) to get better. 2) I truely enjoy it. and 3) If I'm ever forced into a self defense shooting I want to be damned sure that I will stop the bastard asap, that means causing the most damage to the most important organs as possible in the shortest period of time.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

I shot a target like that today fifty times. I had to re qualify. The PC crowd needs to get over it.

[J-cat]

Actually there is more to it. A little knowledge here might be instructive.

See for example:
"...I agree with the opening statement at the top 100% and it angers me that a book titled "Marksmanship" includes facsimiles of the human form as targets. Incuding being exceedingly distasteful, there are ethical, psychological and legal issues that make the use of the human form as a shooting target dangerous. To begin with those who oppose the non-military/non-police use of firearms can use this book as an argument against those who legally use firearms for other purposes therefore supporting their arguments. I am suspicious of the person who has published these targets in this book for that reason and the others you will find below. The purpose of using the human form as a target is to desensitize people to make it easier for them to shoot and possibly kill other humans. I have no intention of ever killing another human, so do not even like seeing a target of the human form. There have been court cases and legal precedents regarding practising shooting on targets representing the human form where premeditation of murder was proven based on this. A case could be make of premeditated murder or attempted murder if there was say, a shooting accident and the defendant had at some time practised shooting at a human form target. I once had a police officer attempt to gift me some human silhouette targets. He had a reputation of being shady. I would like the original contributor to remove the human silhouette targets from the book and replace them with types of targets that were more traditionally used by marksmen or to use more inclusive terminology "sharpshooters". Annie Oakley was definitely a fantastic shot as well as currently Dr. Susan Nattrass, to mention two shooters who are not 'men'... http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Marksmanship

And:

Illegal human silhouette targets
by NSV on Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:21 pm

I know some of you men live in areas where human silhouette targets are illegal. How are these targets defined under your statutes? Is a description given of what makes it a person silhouette, or is human in the eye of the beholder? I need to know for an idea that I have...
CantYouHearMeKnockin wrote: What kind of communist nanny-staters wouldn't let us shoot at targets with people on them? The People's Republic of Massachusetts. On the books. Illegal. http://vps5028.inmotionhosting.com/~...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Here, take a look for yourselves: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

We on CalGuns do not accept arguments based on psychobabble. We do not care what the left thinks. We don't walk on egg shells.

Training to kill humans is not only acceptable, but encouraged. We are surrounded by crazed, meth snorting leftists who feel entitled to our property and our lives. Training to kill allows us to survive in a world where criminals have more rights than innocent babies.

If they sold targets that scream in pain as they take rounds, I'd be the first in line to buy them.

[Ron-Solo]

I couldn't believe this thread when I first started reading it. I could not believe that places actually prohibited human shaped targets, and some even had laws prohibiting them. It opened my eyes a little bit.

I guess being in LE for the last 32 years, where we almost exclusively shoot at various human shaped targets has spoiled me. We only use 'bullseye' type targets when zeroing weapons.

The whole concept of banning human shaped targets simply baffles me. Then again, a lot of our laws are extremely stupid and make no sense.

Every time I go shoot, I view it as a training exercise. When the fecal matter hits the oscilating wind device, you will react based on the way you train.

If I'm ever attacked by a wild pack of aluminum cans, those cans are toast.

[wilit]

I've been told that the reason some ranges don't allow them is because the head of the silhouette is too close either to the wood frame on an outdoor range or the target shuttle on an indoor range. Missed head shots would damage and break these items. Not sure if it's the real reason they're not allowed, but it seems like a logical explanation to me.

[PyroFox79]

If you don't like it don't shoot there. At one of the ranges they allow sillhouettes but not anything with an image. It doesn't bother me all that much. It's their rules and thy would rather not catch the heat from people who like to complain about anything. Just they way it is.

[Scratch705]

bring two round targets and a long rectangular target.

mount both round targets to either side of the rectangular target at the top or bottom lengthwise. hehe

[Bigtwin]

I have NEVER had that problem in the ranges I shoot at localy, and find it rather disturbing that this practice exists!

[Saym14]

this is SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Twinsen]

Last I heard, they were illegal in Massachusucks.