Avoid Irvington Arms

[ke6guj]

Second part of my question! Is it legal?

- G

AFAIK, it is legal. CADOJ may not like it when they see it, but there is nothing stopping the dealer from starting a long gun DROS whenever they want, and they can start a handgun DROS when they have the identifying info from the handgun in question.

[HUTCH 7.62]

Man that sucks. usually Irvington Arms has great service.

[556MikeMike]

Sorry to the OP that this happened to you. Did they throw away the box that it came in? Otherwise I'd find it hard to believe they would throw the bolt away since it would have some weight to it.

[Two Shots]

Have you contacted the seller and ask if he could look around, just in case it didn't make it into the box by accident.

[nagorb]

That sucks. I've only been to Irvington Arms once and had a bad experience but most other people seem to like them. Unless you really trust the seller you can't really tell who is at fault.

[alpalwal]

I would HOPE that if my gun store received a rifle without a bolt their next move would be to investigate further.

I can see both sides of this one. Looking back it's easy to say that, but as someone later in this thread said - people ship parts separate all the time.

Could the bolt been lost during transit? What was the condition of the box? Or how about asking the seller nicely to double check if the bolt was shipped?

I can just feel the frustration on both sides.

It is always a good practice to check everything before leaving the store. Heck, I even do it at Drive Thru's...missing a straw on your drink is not very convenient.

I doubt it was lost during transit. I still have the box and it's in fine condition.

I didnt know that you could start a transfer on a firearm before it had even arrived?

- G

Apparently it's ok-ish for long guns, but not for handguns.

Sorry to the OP that this happened to you. Did they throw away the box that it came in? Otherwise I'd find it hard to believe they would throw the bolt away since it would have some weight to it.

I still have the box, and I agree it's hard to throw away a bolt. The only thing I can think of is that it just got lumped in with all the other packing material that was apparently crammed into the box.

Have you contacted the seller and ask if he could look around, just in case it didn't make it into the box by accident.

I just sent the seller a message asking him to jump in on this thread.

[nagorb]

BTW - It cannot be clearly established as a fact that Irvington Arms was at fault here. Considering that the thread title is over the top.

Even though I had a negative experience with them I still wouldn't discourage others from using them. Kinda reminds me of the City Arms thread which ended up giving CA a bunch of free advertising.

[ColdSteel]

Wow.. What a nightmare. I'm the seller of the rifle and I'm not a stranger to packing and shipping things.

I attached a packing list to the box for specifically this reason.

I wrapped the whole rifle, bolt and scope in plastic to keep the packing peanuts out of the bore, trigger, bolt assembly and action.

It's really unfortunate that the person who unpacked the rifle did not have the foresight to:

1. Leave the package alone for the customer to inspect upon commencing the DROS paperwork
Or
2. Unwrap the rifle, look for all the parts and assemble it for the customer.

Put yourself in Mr. Box opener's shoes.
You open a box with a rifle wrapped in plastic, a scope wrapped in plastic but no bolt installed on the rifle... It's a whole rifle system. Did this guy buy a weapon without a bolt?

Unfortunate negligence.

The guy that threw the part of the gun away has to fix it.

bolts are often removed from the firearm before shipping so tht the bolt handle does not try to poke through the box. plus, less chance of the bolt handle getting bent if it is removed from the firearm.

This is the exact reason I took the bolt out of the rifle.

Until I am convinced otherwise,
IRVINGTON ARMS SUCKS

[wikidklown]

Wow, I've transfered a few firearms from IA and never had any sort of problem at all...
I've always gotten parts I needed right away if I cant wait or order online...
Hopefully they come up with a resolution for you.....

[nagorb]

Wow, I've transfered a few firearms from IA and never had any sort of problem at all...
I've always gotten parts I needed right away if I cant wait or order online...
Hopefully they come up with a resolution for you.....

YO! roland whats up!!!!

[nagorb]

Wow.. What a nightmare. I'm the seller of the rifle and I'm not a stranger to packing and shipping things.

I attached a packing list to the box for specifically this reason.

I wrapped the whole rifle, bolt and scope in plastic to keep the packing peanuts out of the bore, trigger, bolt assembly and action.

It's really unfortunate that the person who unpacked the rifle did not have the foresight to:

1. Leave the package alone for the customer to inspect upon commencing the DROS paperwork
Or
2. Unwrap the rifle, look for all the parts and assemble it for the customer.

Put yourself in Mr. Box opener's shoes.
You open a box with a rifle wrapped in plastic, a scope wrapped in plastic but no bolt installed on the rifle... It's a whole rifle system. Did this guy buy a weapon without a bolt?

Unfortunate negligence.

The guy that threw the part of the gun away has to fix it.




This is the exact reason I took the bolt out of the rifle.

Until I am convinced otherwise,
IRVINGTON ARMS SUCKS

If this is true, they should make it right.

[Josh3239]

I used Irvington Arms once, they suck and I'll never use them again. Even my local dealer told me that it sounds like they were just jerking me around. One of the stupidest things they did was to threaten to turn over the handgun I had sent to them to the police even though it was a legal handgun that was registered to me. When I told them to return it to me they told me that they had to send it to a transfer dealer. They would not send my handgun back to me even though it was already registered to me. Whenever I challenged them on anything their answer was, "Well, it is a handgun so it has different rules".

[plan-b]

Wrap the gun, scope & bolt separately. Tape the wrapped scope and wrapped bolt to the rifle receiver. That way, when it's removed from the packaging, it comes out as one whole unit. My $.02 on how I'd package a rifle to be shipped but YMMV.

I've only ever had great experiences at Irvington Arms and they've bent over backwards for me on a number of occasions even though 9+ out of 10 visits, I'm only there to look and don't spend money with them.

[ColdSteel]

BTW - It cannot be clearly established as a fact that Irvington Arms was at fault here. Considering that the thread title is over the top.

Well...
I packed the rifle. I put all the parts in a study box, and I taped the hell out of it.
I even attached a packing list.

Clear enough?

[stitchnicklas]

buyer needs to sue the hell out of irvington,sue them for the bolt-loss of use of gun-mental duress and anything else....

as for the vendor i say ban...i hate shady businesses