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  • thrillhouse700
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 4349

    How does ordering a firing arm online work?

    I'm in Ca, have been searching for a good priced place for an M1A scout. Buds seems to be the cheapest place at 1500. Local turners is roughly 1800. My question is how exactly does this work? I call them and order the gun then have it shipped to FFL? Or do I tell them who the FFL is and they call him? This FFL thing is a bit confusing.
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  • #2
    Baconator
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2009
    • 9547

    Typically you need to have your receiving FFL send their license to the seller and the seller ships the item to that FFL. Once it arrives you can start your 10 day wait. I found some pretty good deals on Davidsons Gun Genie. You pay a deposit and then the rest when the gun comes, and you don't have to deal with getting the license faxed over.

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    • #3
      rct442
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 708

      I have bought all my guns out of state, with the exception of one.

      1. Go to the website & order rifle/shotgun/handgun.
      2. Put your local FFL's street address as the delivery address. (Make sure your FFL excepts "out-of-state" transfers. Search if your not sure your local FFL does.)
      3. The shipping FFL will need a fax/e-mail copy of your local FFL's license.
      4. After the shipping FFL confirms the FFL license, they will ship it. (Handguns must ship Overnight Air. Rifle/Shotguns can ship Ground/USPS.)
      5. Next call your local FFL to tell them this rifle/shotgun/handgun is to be delivered & to expect it.
      6. After it arrives at your local FFL, they will usually call you or you can check the tracking # to see if it was delivered.
      7. Go in to your local FFL & start the DROS.
      8. After the 10-day waiting period is over, take rifle/shotgun/handgun home.

      If it needs to be made "CA-legal", then simply put your "Middleman" as the receiving FFL. After he receives it & makes it ready to ship to CA, he will ship it to your local FFL exactly as described above.
      Last edited by rct442; 05-12-2010, 9:44 AM.

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      • #4
        IrishPirate
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2009
        • 6390

        post 2 and 3 pretty much nailed it. Another thing though.....once the FFL that is doing the DROS has the serial number for the gun you can actually start the DROS process. not all FFL's will do that for you, but some of them will be nice enough to give you those few extra days of shipping time as DROS time too. The problem is, if a gun with different serial numbers shows up, you're screwed. But if the shipping company is trustworthy and the FFL is ok with it, it's always worth shaving a few days off of purgatory.
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        • #5
          rct442
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 708

          Originally posted by IrishPirate
          post 2 and 3 pretty much nailed it. Another thing though.....once the FFL that is doing the DROS has the serial number for the gun you can actually start the DROS process. not all FFL's will do that for you, but some of them will be nice enough to give you those few extra days of shipping time as DROS time too. The problem is, if a gun with different serial numbers shows up, you're screwed. But if the shipping company is trustworthy and the FFL is ok with it, it's always worth shaving a few days off of purgatory.
          Don't quote me, but I thought only handguns needed the serial # to start the DROS without the gun. I thought shotguns/rifles/longguns didn't need the serial # to start a DROS.

          Maybe someone with a FFL can enlighten us.

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          • #6
            IrishPirate
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 6390

            Originally posted by rct442
            Don't quote me, but I thought only handguns needed the serial # to start the DROS without the gun. I thought shotguns/rifles/longguns didn't need the serial # to start a DROS.

            Maybe someone with a FFL can enlighten us.
            could be, i just know that all the rifles/shotguns i ordered got DROSed during shipping after the FFL got the SN's.....could have just waited until he knew an approximate arrival date was within 10 days and just told me he needed the SN's...either way i didn't have to wait as long as i could have, which was awesome!
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            • #7
              glockman19
              Banned
              • Jun 2007
              • 10486

              Buds has great prices. Look into their credit card. You can buy your scout interest free.

              Pay them and let them know who your local FFL is. They will transfer to to them. You can pick it up after your 10 day wait.

              The M1A scout is a great rifle.

              Congrats.

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              • #8
                rct442
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 708

                Originally posted by IrishPirate
                could be, i just know that all the rifles/shotguns i ordered got DROSed during shipping after the FFL got the SN's.....could have just waited until he knew an approximate arrival date was within 10 days and just told me he needed the SN's...either way i didn't have to wait as long as i could have, which was awesome!
                There was a guy who used to post here who would open a DROS every month, so whenever a gun he ordered arrived at his FFL, he didn't have to wait 10 days.

                He would go in, pick-up his gun and go home. He was spending serious $$$ to do that, but he never had to wait.

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                • #9
                  j1133s
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1343

                  Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                  I'm in Ca, have been searching for a good priced place for an M1A scout. Buds seems to be the cheapest place at 1500. Local turners is roughly 1800. My question is how exactly does this work? I call them and order the gun then have it shipped to FFL? Or do I tell them who the FFL is and they call him? This FFL thing is a bit confusing.
                  Have Bud's ship it to Turners and brag how cheap you got it for.

                  Joking of course. You should contact your local receiving FFL xfer dealer first, then pay Bud's and tell Bud's your FFL info.

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                  • #10
                    thrillhouse700
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 4349

                    Buds gun shop has some restrictions.......... Anyone ever buy a rifle from them?

                    "California - No Hi-Cap Mags without a Hi-Cap Mag Permit.
                    No Defense/Clip Fed Shotguns. No Semi-Auto Rifles. No M-16 Bolts.
                    Los Angeles, Sacramento, & San Francisco, CA - No Ammo without a FFL. "
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                    • #11
                      rct442
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 708

                      Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                      Buds gun shop has some restrictions.......... Anyone ever buy a rifle from them?

                      "California - No Hi-Cap Mags without a Hi-Cap Mag Permit.
                      No Defense/Clip Fed Shotguns. No Semi-Auto Rifles. No M-16 Bolts.
                      Los Angeles, Sacramento, & San Francisco, CA - No Ammo without a FFL. "
                      You will then have to send it to a "middleman" to have it "neutered". He has to remove the flash hider so you put on a muzzle brake.

                      You might want to look for one in the Marketplace.

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                      • #12
                        Juice5610
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1558

                        Word of advice ask different FFL's what their charge is for ordering online. Some places make out like bandits!!! I've been Told $125+$25 DROS fee just to have the item shipped to them! Look Around man.

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                        • #13
                          Doheny
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13820

                          /\/\ I found a good deal, had it shipped then found about additional fees, etc. Make sure you call the receiving store and find out what the bottom line will be.
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                          • #14
                            racky
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1044

                            do FFL's charge a fee for being the "middleman"?
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                            • #15
                              rct442
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 708

                              Originally posted by racky
                              do FFL's charge a fee for being the "middleman"?
                              And it can get pretty pricey depending on the FFL. It starts around $25, and the sky's the limit after that.

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