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"Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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What would you want someone to do if it was yours and you left it at a range?I recently found a firearm left weeks after a match on a range in Kalifornia.
I have contacted the match director with identifying attributes of the firearm and he has issued a general email to his membership asking for someone to identify and claim this firearm.
I would like to see it returned to its proper owner, but:
1. Do I need to report finding it to any law enforcement agency?
Absolutely. Misappropriation of found property is a crime
2. The match director wants to take possession, is this a wise move?
Unless he is law enforcement for the jurisdiction where the match occurred, NO
3. If no one claims this firearm in a reasonable period (90 days?) can I keep it?
Not generally
4. What else should I be concerned about?
The rightful owner may have already reported it lost or stolen to their LE agency not realizing they left it at the match.
Also, the person who left it may have stolen it. With the best of intentions, you could be in possession of stolen property without realizing it.LASD Retired
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A good friend of mine found one of these left behind when he worked as a RO at an army range. He managed to tracked down the soldiers who left it behind, and demanded 6 cases of beer (of his choice) if they wanted it back, and if they didn't want him to go through their CO. He got his beer.
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Last edited by bigthaiboy; 04-29-2010, 7:18 PM.
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Give it to the rangemaster to return.
If it was your gun would you prefer to have the RO hand it back or go to court to get an order for the police to return it to you?
I also think you have a snowballs chance that if you give it to the police and no one claims it that you will get it back.^^ Said by some lunatic on the internetComment
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THIS is the correct approach for you; and you let the rangemaster/ match-director know what and where the gun is if someone should decide to claim it. He can still tell the members where they can retrieve their gun - if they don't in some such amount of time... it's YOURS rather than someone else claiming it for you (like... the rangemaster/match director1.) Report it lost/found to the police - GET A RECEIPT
2.) Follow-up regularly to make sure they are attempting to contact the owner.
3.) Claim the firearm for yourself if the original owner is not found. I believe a LEGR is required.
4.) DONT just "give" it to a LEO. This is an illegal transfer regardless of his LEO status.
). AND you would still be doing the right thing, contacting the same people, doing all you can to find the right owner - but if you don't, or they don't, YOU score the finders keepers.
And I see nothing wrong with that. If yo don't calim it but the police get hold of it, either it evetnaully gets auctioned off by them (depending on location/region/muncipality/department), or destroyed. Why not claim it if the rightful owner is never found?
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Except this violates California law and if the value of the gun is over $400 could be prosecuted as a felony. Bad Idea.LASD Retired
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Turn it in to the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction, get a receipt, if unclaimed, try to claim it if possible. The local LE agency can do a trace via BATF and try to locate the original owner. The actual owner will have to jump thru some hoops to get it back, but that might get them to be more careful with their guns in the future.
Besides being the legal thing to do, it's the right thing to do.
Aloha,
RonLASD Retired
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Funny, all the "you 'found' the large-capacity magazines" folks seem to say otherwise...
To the OP - turn in the firearm to the local law enforcement organization so they may work on getting it back to the rightful owner.Comment
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Originally posted by UserM4You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.The law says you only have to turn found large capacity magazines over to the police if the total value is $100 or more.
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see, this is why all guns should registered and licensed annually....it would solve problems like this in a snap!Comment
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