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  • #31
    1911su16b870
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2006
    • 7654

    Originally posted by Ronco
    Turn it in to PD.

    Just don't walk in like this when you go to turn it in:




    "Excuse me gentlemen but I found this lost firearm..."
    You do this only once...
    "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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    • #32
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      Originally posted by AudioNut
      I recently found a firearm left weeks after a match on a range in Kalifornia.
      I have contacted the match director with identifying attributes of the firearm and he has issued a general email to his membership asking for someone to identify and claim this firearm.
      I would like to see it returned to its proper owner, but:

      1. Do I need to report finding it to any law enforcement agency?

      Absolutely. Misappropriation of found property is a crime

      2. The match director wants to take possession, is this a wise move?

      Unless he is law enforcement for the jurisdiction where the match occurred, NO

      3. If no one claims this firearm in a reasonable period (90 days?) can I keep it?

      Not generally

      4. What else should I be concerned about?

      The rightful owner may have already reported it lost or stolen to their LE agency not realizing they left it at the match.

      Also, the person who left it may have stolen it. With the best of intentions, you could be in possession of stolen property without realizing it.
      What would you want someone to do if it was yours and you left it at a range?
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      • #33
        bigthaiboy
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4795

        A good friend of mine found one of these left behind when he worked as a RO at an army range. He managed to tracked down the soldiers who left it behind, and demanded 6 cases of beer (of his choice) if they wanted it back, and if they didn't want him to go through their CO. He got his beer.

        L7A1
        Last edited by bigthaiboy; 04-29-2010, 7:18 PM.

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        • #34
          cannon
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2008
          • 8589

          Give it to the rangemaster to return.

          If it was your gun would you prefer to have the RO hand it back or go to court to get an order for the police to return it to you?

          I also think you have a snowballs chance that if you give it to the police and no one claims it that you will get it back.
          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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          • #35
            CALI-gula
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2006
            • 7067

            Originally posted by bdsmchs
            1.) Report it lost/found to the police - GET A RECEIPT
            2.) Follow-up regularly to make sure they are attempting to contact the owner.
            3.) Claim the firearm for yourself if the original owner is not found. I believe a LEGR is required.
            4.) DONT just "give" it to a LEO. This is an illegal transfer regardless of his LEO status.
            THIS is the correct approach for you; and you let the rangemaster/ match-director know what and where the gun is if someone should decide to claim it. He can still tell the members where they can retrieve their gun - if they don't in some such amount of time... it's YOURS rather than someone else claiming it for you (like... the rangemaster/match director ). AND you would still be doing the right thing, contacting the same people, doing all you can to find the right owner - but if you don't, or they don't, YOU score the finders keepers.

            And I see nothing wrong with that. If yo don't calim it but the police get hold of it, either it evetnaully gets auctioned off by them (depending on location/region/muncipality/department), or destroyed. Why not claim it if the rightful owner is never found?

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            Last edited by CALI-gula; 04-29-2010, 7:16 PM.
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            • #36
              RTE
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1948

              Speaking from an AZ perspective

              The range master should have found it first.
              He didn't.
              You should store it safely away till the owner is found.
              Maybe run an internet APB on the Model and serial number?

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              • #37
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by RTE
                Speaking from an AZ perspective

                The range master should have found it first.
                He didn't.
                You should store it safely away till the owner is found.
                Maybe run an internet APB on the Model and serial number?
                Except this violates California law and if the value of the gun is over $400 could be prosecuted as a felony. Bad Idea.
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                • #38
                  Turbinator
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11934

                  Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                  Except this violates California law and if the value of the gun is over $400 could be prosecuted as a felony. Bad Idea.
                  So just curious, what do you recommend, from a LEO perspective?

                  Turby

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                  • #39
                    Ron-Solo
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8581

                    Originally posted by Turbinator
                    So just curious, what do you recommend, from a LEO perspective?

                    Turby
                    Turn it in to the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction, get a receipt, if unclaimed, try to claim it if possible. The local LE agency can do a trace via BATF and try to locate the original owner. The actual owner will have to jump thru some hoops to get it back, but that might get them to be more careful with their guns in the future.

                    Besides being the legal thing to do, it's the right thing to do.

                    Aloha,

                    Ron
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                    • #40
                      aermotor
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2566

                      Uhhh this is like the lost iPhone... turn it in to the police and forget about it. It's not yours. It's not your problem.

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                      • #41
                        leelaw
                        Junior Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10445

                        Originally posted by UserM4
                        You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.
                        Funny, all the "you 'found' the large-capacity magazines" folks seem to say otherwise...

                        To the OP - turn in the firearm to the local law enforcement organization so they may work on getting it back to the rightful owner.

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                        • #42
                          Josh3239
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 9197

                          Originally posted by leelaw
                          Funny, all the "you 'found' the large-capacity magazines" folks seem to say otherwise...

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                          • #43
                            Mssr. Eleganté
                            Blue Blaze Irregular
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 10401

                            Originally posted by UserM4
                            You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.
                            Originally posted by leelaw
                            Funny, all the "you 'found' the large-capacity magazines" folks seem to say otherwise...
                            The law says you only have to turn found large capacity magazines over to the police if the total value is $100 or more.
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                            • #44
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34870

                              see, this is why all guns should registered and licensed annually....it would solve problems like this in a snap!

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                              • #45
                                liberty08
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 806

                                I would ask the RO if there is a "lost and found" box and place the gun in there. I'm sure someone will claim it.

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