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  • AudioNut
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 5

    Found Firearm

    I recently found a firearm left weeks after a match on a range in Kalifornia.
    I have contacted the match director with identifying attributes of the firearm and he has issued a general email to his membership asking for someone to identify and claim this firearm.
    I would like to see it returned to its proper owner, but:

    1. Do I need to report finding it to any law enforcement agency?
    2. The match director wants to take possession, is this a wise move?
    3. If no one claims this firearm in a reasonable period (90 days?) can I keep it?
    4. What else should I be concerned about?


    Updated information at end of thread
    Last edited by AudioNut; 05-18-2010, 9:44 PM. Reason: Update
  • #2
    UserM4
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1687

    You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.
    While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?

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    • #3
      evidens83
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2009
      • 7839

      You "found" a firearm hmmmm...
      WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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      • #4
        JaMail
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 1897

        i would think giving it to the match director would break a law, i wouldnt go so far as to give it to the LEO's since it could take an act of congress for the original owner to get it back, but LEO would safest bet.
        Jason M- My 5 year old is a NRA life member, are you?

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        • #5
          Mr. Beretta
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2005
          • 6614

          Originally posted by UserM4
          You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.
          +1...............

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          • #6
            jmatt511
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 688

            Originally posted by UserM4
            You should turn it into the authorities. Have them deal with it.
            I agree with M4. California law requires gun owners to report firearms as lost or stolen iftheyr go missing. If you keep the weapon, you could be charged with receiving stolen property which is a felony in California and therefore could preclude you from owning any firearms if convicted. Don't risk your freedom or right to gun ownership. Turn it into the nearest police department ASAP.
            Cry Havoc.... and let slip the Dogs of War.

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            • #7
              Bill Carson
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 3574

              You do not know the history of that gun. Give it to the range director or be a complete db and turn it in at a guns for cash drive. Yeah you can keep it but never register it and then some years later have a run in with the law at your house and try to explain how you are in possesion of a handgun stolen in a home invasion robbery where the homeowner was killed.

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              • #8
                AudioNut
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 5

                Interesting discussion answers.

                Which 'authorities'? The match director is LEO.
                I really want the proper owner avoid any legal hassles in getting it returned.
                I wonder if the owner is too embarrassed to report it missing.

                Thanks

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                • #9
                  UserM4
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1687

                  Call your local police dept. Ask them what you can do to return it to the owner. Maybe they can run the serial number off of it to see if it's been reported missing.
                  While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?

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                  • #10
                    JaMail
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1897

                    whoever you return it to, get a receipt with the serial number on it that you turned it over to them.
                    Jason M- My 5 year old is a NRA life member, are you?

                    WTB: Stoeger Condor Competition Combo (I'll trade 1911's or other handguns)

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                    • #11
                      Noobert
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3341

                      So what did you find?
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                      • #12
                        1911su16b870
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 7654

                        I would turn it into the responsible head of the range or next in charge. Sadly, many times a firearm is left behind after a day at the range...and eventually the owner will come looking for it.

                        ETA: I just read your other clarifications...the match director being a LEO should mean he will do the right thing and make an effort to get it back to its owner...
                        "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                        • #13
                          El Gato
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1613

                          Call the local Sheriff or agency that has jurisdiction...Sheriff is cool as they have jurisdiction over the whole county...
                          they will try to contact the owner...
                          if not claimed, you can usually claim it after a period of time...
                          get a receipt.
                          good luck.
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                          • #14
                            Mssr. Eleganté
                            Blue Blaze Irregular
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 10401

                            Originally posted by AudioNut
                            I recently found a firearm left weeks after a match on a range in Kalifornia.
                            I have contacted the match director with identifying attributes of the firearm and he has issued a general email to his membership asking for someone to identify and claim this firearm.
                            I would like to see it returned to its proper owner, but:

                            1. Do I need to report finding it to any law enforcement agency?
                            2. The match director wants to take possession, is this a wise move?
                            3. If no one claims this firearm in a reasonable period (90 days?) can I keep it?
                            4. What else should I be concerned about?
                            Here's what the California Civil Code says about finding property...

                            2080. Any person who finds a thing lost is not bound to take charge
                            of it, unless the person is otherwise required to do so by contract
                            or law, but when the person does take charge of it he or she is
                            thenceforward a depositary for the owner, with the rights and
                            obligations of a depositary for hire. Any person or any public or
                            private entity that finds and takes possession of any money, goods,
                            things in action, or other personal property, or saves any domestic
                            animal from harm, neglect, drowning, or starvation, shall, within a
                            reasonable time, inform the owner, if known, and make restitution
                            without compensation, except a reasonable charge for saving and
                            taking care of the property. Any person who takes possession of a
                            live domestic animal shall provide for humane treatment of the
                            animal.



                            2080.1. (a) If the owner is unknown or has not claimed the
                            property, the person saving or finding the property shall, if the
                            property is of the value of one hundred dollars ($100) or more,
                            within a reasonable time turn the property over to the police
                            department of the city or city and county, if found therein, or to
                            the sheriff's department of the county if found outside of city
                            limits, and shall make an affidavit, stating when and where he or she
                            found or saved the property, particularly describing it. If the
                            property was saved, the affidavit shall state:
                            (1) From what and how it was saved.
                            (2) Whether the owner of the property is known to the affiant.
                            (3) That the affiant has not secreted, withheld, or disposed of
                            any part of the property.
                            (b) The police department or the sheriff's department shall notify
                            the owner, if his or her identity is reasonably ascertainable, that
                            it possesses the property and where it may be claimed. The police
                            department or sheriff's department may require payment by the owner
                            of a reasonable charge to defray costs of storage and care of the
                            property.


                            2080.2. If the owner appears within 90 days, after receipt of the
                            property by the police department or sheriff's department, proves his
                            ownership of the property, and pays all reasonable charges, the
                            police department or sheriff's department shall restore the property
                            to him.



                            2080.3. (a) If the reported value of the property is two hundred
                            fifty dollars ($250) or more and no owner appears and proves his or
                            her ownership of the property within 90 days, the police department
                            or sheriff's department shall cause notice of the property to be
                            published at least once in a newspaper of general circulation. If,
                            after seven days following the first publication of the notice, no
                            owner appears and proves his or her ownership of the property and the
                            person who found or saved the property pays the cost of the
                            publication, the title shall vest in the person who found or saved
                            the property unless the property was found in the course of
                            employment by an employee of any public agency, in which case the
                            property shall be sold at public auction. Title to the property shall
                            not vest in the person who found or saved the property or in the
                            successful bidder at the public auction unless the cost of
                            publication is first paid to the city, county, or city and county
                            whose police or sheriff's department caused the notice to be
                            published.
                            (b) If the reported value of the property is less than two hundred
                            fifty dollars ($250) and no owner appears and proves his or her
                            ownership of the property within 90 days, the title shall vest in the
                            person who found or saved the property, unless the property was
                            found in the course of employment by an employee of any public
                            agency, in which case the property shall be sold at public auction.
                            And here's a little nugget from the California Penal Code...

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                            • #15
                              SoCal50Lover
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1007

                              Can't you find the last owner by calling the Bureau of Firearms?
                              Joe,
                              Garden Grove, Ca. 92840

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