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Caught a guy printing last night
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There's a bit fear and loathing going on in this thread. Some of it unwarranted and a little concerning that some here are indirectly simply against people packing. I say WTF to that.
Printing is not brandishing. However most of this conversation about problems with some printing relates to being in California, where since CCW's for all intensive purposes mostly not given to the people, it is not in the social conscious of the people. It's not like they have friends and family with a CCW, and they just are brain tracked to think guns must equal BAD!
If in a place like AZ, TX, FL, ID, UT, etc. and you saw a brief print on someone stretching or something, you would find most people probably assume CCW and are use to it and it is not going to be a problem, again though context is what is important. There is simply less FUD around it.
Really, unless something bad is surrounding the situation, I am not going to tweak about seeing a print, prima facie. Could be LE for all I know. Could be a CCW. Could be a criminal who cares not for the law or you anyway. Simply having the firearm is not necessarily a queue to panic, is it? Assume anything can happen and even what you don't see, which often is more the case. I tell people whom can't understand shall issue CCW all the time, you probably have been around in your daily life in public with people packing illegally without knowing it. Why is it you would have an issue with people legally certifying for it who want to follow the law? Those people are more likely friendly than foe."Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen
The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
- John Adams
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Very true indeed.Read my post again......I said it depends on the circumstances as to if I would call a LEO or not. If that makes me an "ANTI" in your eyes then I am fine with that. But really, I don't care what you think.
The real thing I find interesting in these forums is that most Cal Gunners would not even answer their front door without guns in hand or close by when a magazine salesman or other "unknown" person is on the other side (most likley unarmed). Yet, outside of that front door where you may see someone who is also "unknown" to you attempting to conceal a gun you have no concerns what so ever, and you just keep on eating your french fries???
Once again, there are things that still amaze me every time I sign in here.
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In California.
There are states (shall-issue states) that have VERY strict brandishing laws.
Their attitude is that concealed is concealed. If anyone else knows that you are carrying, it's brandishing. They lack the "rude or threatening manner" clause in their laws.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Display in a threatening or rude manner.
Say you are legally CCW, and get into a confrontation. You do not feel that deadly force is warranted, so you don't want to draw, but you want to quickly defuse the situation... you draw your jacket back to reveal the holstered weapon.
Since the context is some kind of confrontation, and the act of exposing the gun is an implied threat that you WILL use it if the other party does not back down, it would be brandishing.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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You're being dramatic. How do you know he was printing?http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...tory?track=rss I wonder if anyone saw him printing.Sent from Free AmericaComment
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Dramatic? The guy pulls out a gun at a restaurant and shoots 6 people, killing 4 of them. This proves that not all guys that are packing are good people hence my concern. Printing or not, these types of crimes cause concern for others (like me) when they see someone with a gun that is not an obvious LEO."You can't handle the truth"Comment
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I always wear a set of these when on Cal Guns, and I strongly recommend their use.
It can get deep in here....

You really thought you could slip that in and nobody would notice?

Last edited by ojisan; 04-10-2010, 5:37 PM.
Originally posted by Citadelgrad87I don't really care, I just like to argue.Comment
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slang:Originally posted by lowracerIt's not slang. it's quite commonly used in CCW circles
a characteristic language of a particular group
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Language outside of conventional usage; Language that is unique to a particular profession or subject; jargon;
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slangLast edited by dominic; 04-10-2010, 5:58 PM.Comment
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This is a gun forum. So even by the definitions you posted "printing" would not be meaningless slang.I thought you meant you caught him writing something dirty on the stall door.
Who uses this term? When did the meaning of "printing" change from what kids do in first grade before they learn to write in cursive. Kinda like the meaning of "gay" changed from meaning being happy to something totally different now.
If someone was carrying and you could tell, why don't you just say it? I'm not impressed with your use of meaningless slang.
Last edited by halifax; 04-10-2010, 8:40 PM.Jim
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