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  • TheRossRocket
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 102

    GUN STORE ETIQUETTE (revised)

    Do to popular demand and not wanting to discourage anyone from purchasing a firearm, I have overhauled this thread.



    So you want to buy a gun and don't want to look like a fool. Here's proper etiquette:

    1. Pick a gun shop that looks clean on the outside. Dirty store fronts sell dirty guns.

    2. Go to the shop when they first open; this way the employees will be fresh and ready to serve you best. It isn't uncommon for buyers to wait outside for the shop to open in order to be first.

    3. If you already have a specific gun in mind, ask to see it. Otherwise, describe what you want; e.g. "I want a fast shooting gun good for bank robbery", this is a commonly used description for a general purpose weapon.

    4. When the clerk hands you the gun. It is important to test its natural point of aim. This is done by pointing its muzzle at the clerk and pulling the trigger. The more times you pull the tirgger while pointed the more respect you show.

    5. Finally, you want to be sure that the gun balances nicely in your hands, and ammo (being very heavy) affects the balance. Ask to have a magazine and some ammo. A lot of shops don't allow this because they fear of loosing a sale. However, you are the buyer and you want a well balanced gun... so be persistent. Sometimes you have to sneak around the shop to get the gun loaded.

    6. Test firing. Just like buying a car, a test fire is very important for you to get to know whether the gun fits your hand well and handles well. IMPORTANT: when firing a weapon be sure to point it somewhere safe! It is customary for the shop to charge you double the price of your test fire ammo.

    7. Once you've determined that you want to buy the gun, a lot of shops will want to make you fill out some forms. This is required by law. However, those forms are used to send you junk mail, so be sure to put down a fake address. Many buyers also put down a fake name.

    8. After paying, many stores here want to enforce a 10 day waiting period. It is a way to get you back into thier store again. Many employees are just following the owner's demand that they enforce the 10 day wait, just take your gun and walk out; they employees will understand.




    Now for the real Etiquette


    Rules:

    *Pay attention to where you point the gun, Do not point it at anyone, if they move out of the way of the muzzle please do not follow them with it.

    *If you purchase a firearm that does not come with a California DOJ approved lock, you will NEED TO PURCHASE A LOCK. The exception to this is if it is a rifle or a shotgun and you own a approved firearms safe. DO NOT ARGUE WITH THEM ABOUT IT. It is California Law.

    *Do not try to dissassemble the firearm without asking. NO MATTER how familiar you are with them.

    *Do not yell at the employee because of your frustration over something they do not have control over.

    *Do not drop the slide on the semi auto handguns. It is a SLIDE CATCH not a slide release, it holds back the slide after the last round. Continuesly using it as a release will round the catch and you will need to have the part or parts replaced.

    *Do not flip the cylinder closed on a revolver, it can bend the ejector rod and eventually prevent the cylinder from closing and/or functioning smoothly.

    *If looking for a CCW, ask before you stick the firearm in your pants.


    Suggestions:

    *It is appreciated that you ask before you pull the trigger, and if you do, do not pull it over and over again.

    *Do not butt in on a conversation to express your disagreement when a worker is trying educate a patron who is new to firearms.

    *If you bring your children to the store... PLEASE CONTROL THEM.


    Pet Peeves:

    *Firearms are called either: RIFLES, SHOTGUNS or HANDGUNS/PISTOLS. Not gats, gauges, shotties or pieces.

    *Do not tell the store worker how you can get the gun cheaper online or down the street for much less. Instead, politely thank the worker for his time and buy it elsewhere.



    Both Sides of the Counter:

    *Neither the workers or the customers know everything, If something is said which is FALSE please correct it.
    (NOTE: only if it is FALSE not a disagreement.)

    *Keep the profanity to a minimum to none at all.

    *Be polite and leave all attitudes outside the store.

    *There is NO correct caliber for any scenario, a well placed shot from any caliber will get the job done.
    (yes some calibers will do the job better.)

    *ALL customers should be treated with the upmost respect and importance.

    *As a customer: If you are just looking, then let the other customers get helped rather than keeping one employee to yourself. When you have a question then get the attention of the employee.

    *Just because the employee does not have the answer to a question, does not mean they don't know anything, it just mean they do not have the answer to THAT question.
    Last edited by TheRossRocket; 02-11-2010, 1:37 PM.
    I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six...
  • #2
    mattmcg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 937

    And I have a few words for you as a gun dealer.

    CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE.

    Once you figure that out, everything else will take care of itself eventually. Well, that and figuring out how to spell etiquette.....
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755

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    • #3
      jonni
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 597

      lol edicate

      ETIQUETTE
      WTB: Yugo 7.62x39, 22lr, Finnish M28/39

      "I don't know we made brownies. And I think we're dead. Time is going by really really really really slow."

      -Former cop, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU

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      • #4
        zman
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 3639

        Originally posted by mattmcg
        And I have a few words for you as a gun dealer.

        CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE.

        Once you figure that out, everything else will take care of itself eventually. Well, that and figuring out how to spell etiquette.....
        Right on!

        Originally posted by jonni
        lol edicate

        ETIQUETTE
        LOL. Close enough

        Super Robot VOLTES V

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        • #5
          TheRossRocket
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 102

          Thank you for pointing that out, Fixed, it sounded right and got the point across, lol.

          I agree with Costumer service 100%, I spend as much time with a cusomer as they need.
          I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six...

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          • #6
            thomashoward
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 1991

            * Do not drop the slide on my semi auto. Its not a slide release, it holds back the slide on the last round for a quick reload. Sustained slide slamming will radius the catch and you will need a new slide despite what you have seen in the movies
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            "Everyone has two lives,the second one starts when you realize you only have one "

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            • #7
              TheRossRocket
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 102

              Originally posted by thomashoward
              * Do not drop the slide on my semi auto. Its not a slide release, it holds back the slide on the last round for a quick reload. Sustained slide slamming will radius the catch and you will need a new slide despite what you have seen in the movies
              Thank you! I can't beleive I missed that one!
              I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six...

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              • #8
                kap
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 1324

                *While holding the firearm, do not make shooting sounds. (I.E: pop, pew, bang, etc..)
                LOL! I would love to be there when someone started doing that.
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                • #9
                  BuisJoel
                  Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 394

                  Originally posted by TheRossRocket
                  *If the firearm is allready discounted, DO NOT ASK FOR MORE OFF if you see a scratch.
                  .
                  dont agree with this one. It never hurts to ask and ive gotten a bigger discount before because the gun was scratched.

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                  • #10
                    VegasND
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8621

                    Originally posted by TheRossRocket
                    ...
                    *While holding the firearm, do not make shooting sounds. (I.E: pop, pew, bang, etc..)
                    ...
                    Originally posted by kap
                    LOL! I would love to be there when someone started doing that.
                    kap, you need to go with me the next time I'm in a gun store where they don't know me because I have GOT to do that!
                    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
                    --River Tam

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                    • #11
                      Nynvolt
                      Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 297

                      I have a few for those who work behind the counter;

                      Not every customer is an idiot, learn to be patient.

                      You do not necessarily know more than the customer does.

                      The customer may ask stupid questions, if they didn't there would be no use for you.

                      Be polite.

                      Remove the chip on your shoulder when you clock in, feel free to put it back when you clock out.

                      Dealing with the general public sucks most of the time, but no one is forcing you to work in that field, so don't take out your frustration on us.

                      If your busy, make eye contact, say "I'm not ignoring you, I will be with you in a moment". This one will go a long way.

                      I used to work in retail and know how stupid and obnoxious some customers can be. Most people change their attitude 100% when shown a little respect and a smile. If someone mishandles merchandise, let them know in a respectful, polite manner. If you can't deal with the public in a polite and respectful manor, you should find another line of work.

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                      • #12
                        CHS
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11338

                        Know your safe make and model.

                        Don't have a safe? Know your friends safe make and model.

                        This will save you the money it will cost to buy a lock you don't want and we don't want to sell you, but we have to.
                        Please read the Calguns Wiki
                        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                        • #13
                          Greg-Dawg
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 7793

                          None of these or any other gun store advice will ever be followed.

                          Originally posted by TheRossRocket
                          Gun Store Etiquette.

                          *Pay attention to where you point the gun, Stop pointing it at us, if we move out of the way of the muzzle DONT FOLLOW US WITH IT!

                          *It is appreciated that you ask before you pull the trigger, and if you do, do not pull it over and over again.

                          *Firearms are called either: RIFES, SHOTGUNS or HANDGUNS/PISTOLS! Not gats, gauges, shotties or pieces!

                          *If you purchase a firearm that does not come with a California DOJ approved lock, you will NEED TO PURCHASE A LOCK. The exception to this is if it is a rifle or a shotgun and you own a approved firearms safe. DO NOT ARGUE WITH US ABOUT IT! We do not care if you have a box full at home! It is California Law! WE ARE JUST DOING OUR JOB!

                          *Do not try to dissassemble the firearm without asking! NO MATTER how familiar you are with them.

                          *If the firearm is allready discounted, DO NOT ASK FOR MORE OFF if you see a scratch.

                          *Do not slap the gun, There is no point to it.

                          *While holding the firearm, do not make shooting sounds. (I.E: pop, pew, bang, etc..)

                          *Do not yell at us because of your frustration over something we do not have control over. WE ARE JUST DOING OUR JOB.

                          *Do not drop the slide on the semi autos. It is a SLIDE CATCH not a slide release, it holds back the slide after the last round. Continuesly using it as a release will round the catch and you will need to have the part or parts replaced.

                          *Do not flip the cylinder closed on a revolver, it can bend the ejector rod and eventually prevent the cylinder from closing and/or functioning smoothly.

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                          • #14
                            Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by thomashoward
                            * Do not drop the slide on my semi auto. Its not a slide release, it holds back the slide on the last round for a quick reload. Sustained slide slamming will radius the catch and you will need a new slide despite what you have seen in the movies
                            It actually is a slide release, but only for chambering a round.

                            The slide should not be allowed to slam forward onto an empty chamber, but there is no reason not to release the slide when chambering a round.

                            True, it is easier on the catch to pull the slide back and allow the catch to drop once the magazine is inserted, but I've never seen a catch damaged from releasing as I described.
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • #15
                              TheRossRocket
                              Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 102

                              Originally posted by Nynvolt
                              I have a few for those who work behind the counter;

                              Not every customer is an idiot, learn to be patient.

                              You do not necessarily know more than the customer does.

                              The customer may ask stupid questions, if they didn't there would be no use for you.

                              Be polite.

                              Remove the chip on your shoulder when you clock in, feel free to put it back when you clock out.

                              Dealing with the general public sucks most of the time, but no one is forcing you to work in that field, so don't take out your frustration on us.

                              If your busy, make eye contact, say "I'm not ignoring you, I will be with you in a moment". This one will go a long way.

                              I used to work in retail and know how stupid and obnoxious some customers can be. Most people change their attitude 100% when shown a little respect and a smile. If someone mishandles merchandise, let them know in a respectful, polite manner. If you can't deal with the public in a polite and respectful manor, you should find another line of work.
                              I agree with everything you said!
                              I know this is not towards me but a reminder towards all of us behind the counter everywhere.

                              I have spent almost 2 hours with a customer making sure they felt comfortable with everything because they were new to the sport.
                              I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six...

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