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  • #61
    tman
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 3347

    Originally posted by DIG
    In that situation, I think I'd bring my pump Remmy870 and set it next to the air matress, far-side from the entryway. Safety ON, shells in but NOT loaded hot. If in need, rack it and click the safety = 1.5 seconds and you're ready to make some hamburger
    I was thinking something along those lines.


    And while home, I keep the 870 on the desk. When sleeping, beside the bed.
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    • #62
      legalweasel
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 27

      1911 cocked and locked in nightstand drawer. 870 with top folding stock, loaded, chambered, and no safety under wife’s side of the bed. We are in early twenties, no kids. No possibility of children coming over.

      Jon

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      • #63
        ElKabong
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 27

        Originally posted by HowardW56
        Can you spell paranoid, obsessive, and dangerous?
        I don't see a smiley, etc. but maybe I'm still missing a joke.

        Just out of curiosity why is that idea described that way compared to some of the other ideas in the thread such as "under the pillow"?

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        • #64
          sned45
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 746

          yep its right next to my inhaler.

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          • #65
            slick_711
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 4400

            Camping depends on where/when/who, but I typically have my 1911 just a foot away but under my folded up pants so as not to scare anyone. Most of my actual 'hunting' excursions have been either day trips or with family friends on their personal ranch, so even then we sleep in their little mobile home camp. In that case I keep rifle & pistol both nearby and loaded but I don't worry about it terribly. Who robs 4 heavily armed men in a little locked trailer compound in the middle of TX?

            At home I have an 870 just a few feet away from the bed, it's not within arms reach, but getting to it simultaneously provides me with good cover. Furthermore the chances of somebody getting into the house AND into my room without waking me are very slim, so getting to the 870 and having cover to fire from is an acceptable plan for me. For awhile I kept it under the mattress, but my ex complained about it hurting her back

            I occasionally keep my 1911 condition 1 right next to the bed, but sometimes it's in my locker at work, and I really don't feel a need most nights.

            There's also a pair of coupled preban 30rd mags loaded with SS109 in the closet next to my unlocked and unloaded OLL. I know it's a no-no to use hicaps with the bullet button, but I've never used them in conjunction before, and if the time comes that I have to it will be a dire enough situation that I'll risk it.

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            • #66
              TTT
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 902

              Originally posted by ElKabong
              I don't see a smiley, etc. but maybe I'm still missing a joke.

              Just out of curiosity why is that idea described that way compared to some of the other ideas in the thread such as "under the pillow"?
              Dr. Goldstein showed us the way. We dropped the ball. Pick up the ball.

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              • #67
                tackdrivr
                Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 175

                Originally posted by M. Sage
                Wanna hear a funny, maybe scary one? October I was in bear country. We found a reasonably fresh bear print not far from our campsite. I was sleeping with a pistol loaded inside my bag. It takes way too long to get out of a bag if a bear's on you. The safety was on, the hammer was down (SAO pistol) with a round in the chamber.
                Bears can be a real problem.

                The state of Montana put out a bear advisory a couple years back. They recommended that hikers carry pepper spray and sew little bells onto there packs so the bears would hear you coming and leave the area.

                It was also advised to be able to recognize bear sign like scrapes, rubs, and droppings. Black bear droppings contain seeds from berries, and fur from small animals. Grizzly bear droppings contain little bells and smell like pepper.
                Amateurs train until they get it right. Professionals train until they can't get it wrong.

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                • #68
                  1911su16b870
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7654

                  LOL to pepper spray and bells...

                  Bears are similar to mountain lions in that they are incredibly stealthy and quiet. Usually they'll go after something smelly in your pack (food, gorp, toothpaste etc) and you won't even know they've gotten it untill you hear the comotion of the bear grabbing your pack and running away with it while its tearing it up to eat whatever its smelled and came to get.

                  Now if you were armed and had to deal with a bear (Bear HTF scenario), what would the minimum handgun cartridge be? 357?
                  "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                  • #69
                    Matt C
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7128

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870

                    Now if you were armed and had to deal with a bear (Bear HTF scenario), what would the minimum handgun cartridge be? 357?
                    Are you serious? Use a .357 if your want the Griz to get PO'd and eat you quicker. .454 casul is the minimum, and even then your are probably dead. You don't use a handgun to attack a bear, you are better with bear (OC) spray.
                    I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                    The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                    • #70
                      CalNRA
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8686

                      sure you can bring a handgun in bear country and sleep with it loaded next to you.

                      bring a few friends with shotguns though.
                      Originally posted by cvigue
                      This is not rocket surgery.

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                      • #71
                        Paratus et Vigilans
                        In Memoriam
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1510

                        Originally posted by tackdrivr
                        Grizzly bear droppings contain little bells and smell like pepper.

                        That's funny - I always thought grizzly droppings were full of stuff like belt buckles, Ipods and undigested frames of .357 Magnums. . . .
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                        • #72
                          Johnny Diablo
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 629

                          I like camping in bear country. Been a few years since as my kids are still too young to take camping without a hassle.

                          A 10mm Glock is in order before I go camping again.
                          Originally posted by Spiggy
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                          • #73
                            1911su16b870
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 7654

                            Originally posted by Paratus et Vigilans
                            That's funny...undigested frames of .357 Magnums. . . .
                            ROTFL
                            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                            NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                            GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                            Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                            I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                            • #74
                              tackdrivr
                              Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 175

                              Originally posted by Paratus et Vigilans
                              That's funny - I always thought grizzly droppings were full of stuff like belt buckles, Ipods and undigested frames of .357 Magnums. . . .
                              LOL, Yep, that too.
                              Amateurs train until they get it right. Professionals train until they can't get it wrong.

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                              • #75
                                grywlfbg
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 988

                                Camping - Bear spray for bears. Nothing mentioned here is going to make much of a dent in a bear. For people: Glock 26 w/ Hydrashocks - full mag and empty chamber in the top of the backpack.

                                Home: Glock 26 w/ Hydrashocks (same as above, full mag, empty chamber) on a shelf in the closet - so it's a few steps away. Dog sleeps in the living room (no doors into our bedroom) so will give me plenty of warning to cross the room. AR sits in the safe in a room across the hall. Would plan to use the Glock to fight my way to the AR(s).

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