Gun Safe in Car..

[PonchoTA]

I still don't get why they require it be unloaded, while still in a locked case.

I mean, come on. How many steps do you have to go through to protect yourself? Are they that fearful that being one step closer to armed, we are just gonna go ON A RAMPAGE, SHOOTING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN SIGHT??????

These people are so stupid.

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[Hayashi Killian]

The case does not have to be made of metal or any other hard substance. Case in point: whenever I transport my shotgun to the range or elsewhere I simply lock it in an Allen case as I have to travel through a school zone to get anywhere. An Allen case is not hard, but is rather soft (I think nylon). But it's still legal since it's sealed and locked at the zipper. So it doesn't even have to have a conventional locking device, a pad or dial lock put through the holes in a zipper are fine.

Within reach is not a requirement. You are simply not allowed to have ready access to the weapon inside. If you do, that is not secure.

[paul0660]

State law does not require that long guns be locked up when traveling in school zones. Federal law does. I have no idea if our cops can make arrests for Federal crimes.

[IsaacGlass]

Here's my problem with guns in safes: They won't keep me SAFE from sudden, unexpected attack. The SAFE will be safe, but I wind up dead or injured.

Keep your gun SAFE on your person. JMHO.

What are you truly advocating?

[Coltlover]

I want one!

[Cokebottle]

What are you truly advocating?

I suspect CCW or LOC.

[five.five-six]

State law does not require that long guns be locked up when traveling in school zones. Federal law does. I have no idea if our cops can make arrests for Federal crimes.

immigration?

[Cokebottle]

immigration?

Just because they don't doesn't mean they can't.
Just because they can doesn't mean they will.

Follow the money. If immigration violators had deep pockets, they'd be all over them like flies on a dead rabbit.

Gun owners typically have deeper pockets than immigration violators, and we have local roots so are not such a flight risk.

[five.five-six]

Just because they don't doesn't mean they can't.
Just because they can doesn't mean they will.

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Special Order 40

[Cokebottle]

Special Order 40

That falls under "just because they can doesn't mean they will"
SO40 is a directive from one agency to it's officers and has nothing to do with California or Federal law enforcement being limited to officers of those jurisdictions.

Ordinarily, it would be "I respect your authority, and offer my services to assist you"

SO40 is a typical SoCal attitude.... "It's your problem, deal with it"

[five.five-six]

it does prohibit officers from enforcing federal law

[Cokebottle]

it does prohibit officers from enforcing federal law

Exactly... but it is a departmental policy order... not state or federal law.
An LAPD officer in violation of SO40 will be subject to disciplinary action and may be fired, but he can't be put in jail for it.

[GrizzlyGuy]

it does prohibit officers from enforcing federal law

Even if the local LEOs can't enforce the federal laws, they or the DA could refer a federal GFSZ incident over to the feds for possible persecution (er, prosecution). It often seems like we gun owners are a lot less popular than illegal aliens in some of these cities.

[aermotor]

State law does not require that long guns be locked up when traveling in school zones. Federal law does. I have no idea if our cops can make arrests for Federal crimes.

Interesting, I didn't know that... so there's no CA law that states they must be locked when knowingly traveling through a school zone? Prolly better safe than sorry to just keep the long guns locked up, I have the same problem to the OP.

[IsaacGlass]

Interesting, I didn't know that... so there's no CA law that states they must be locked when knowingly traveling through a school zone? Prolly better safe than sorry to just keep the long guns locked up, I have the same problem to the OP.

Same here, I always locked all my guns cases when traveling in my car. Its a good habit and provides some peace of mind.