Quick MS2 question about 2 point configuration.

[esskay]

The clip portion of the lockjaw stays put. It shouldn't move or rotate. The ability of the MS2 to move and rotate is carried out by the other parts of the hardware connected to the lockjaw device.

What I meant was if you look at this pic from the Magpul booth, with the CQD that they've modified:


You can see that the lockjaw is clipped in at an angle, not jammed up against the handguard.

If you look at this pic:


You can see that the only way it seems the lockjaw can clip in to an unmodified CQD is jammed up against the side of the rail, which is not to my liking (nor apparently Costa & Haley). Sounds like that's how it works with yours, but I gather it doesn't bother you which is cool.

So we're all good, this just confirms that I will need to take a dremel to my CQD mount to make it work the way I want.

Should add that when I was testing using the MS2 with the CQD, I think because the lockjaw was jammed up against the rail and unable to move at all... when I was moving around with the rifle slung in 2 pt mode somehow the lockjaw got bumped and it opened up, dumping the rifle to the deck. Never had that problem with the lockjaw clipped into a QD swivel.

[bombadillo]

Well, I already bought a MI Heavy Duty sling swivel so we'll see how that works, if not, I'll go with a modified CQD and cut it in half as well as dremmel it out.

[esskay]

Well, I already bought a MI Heavy Duty sling swivel so we'll see how that works, if not, I'll go with a modified CQD and cut it in half as well as dremmel it out.

That will be serviceable. I've run a similar MS/2 setup through a couple classes this year. The only annoyances may be: (a) when clipped to the sling loop the lockjaw will likely not clear the middle swivel, so you'll need to either clip in to the top or bottom part -- this never really bothered me but it might to some, (b) when in single point mode (which is probably most of the time) the sling swivel will be empty -- this bothers some (though not me).

Re: CQD. I personally don't plan to cut the base in half, I find that unnecessary as it isn't that crowded on the left side of my handguard.

[Mute]

What I meant was if you look at this pic from the Magpul booth, with the CQD that they've modified:


You can see that the lockjaw is clipped in at an angle, not jammed up against the handguard.

If you look at this pic:


You can see that the only way it seems the lockjaw can clip in to an unmodified CQD is jammed up against the side of the rail, which is not to my liking (nor apparently Costa & Haley). Sounds like that's how it works with yours, but I gather it doesn't bother you which is cool.

So we're all good, this just confirms that I will need to take a dremel to my CQD mount to make it work the way I want.

Should add that when I was testing using the MS2 with the CQD, I think because the lockjaw was jammed up against the rail and unable to move at all... when I was moving around with the rifle slung in 2 pt mode somehow the lockjaw got bumped and it opened up, dumping the rifle to the deck. Never had that problem with the lockjaw clipped into a QD swivel.

On my lockjaw/CQD combo, I can hook in the way shown in the picture as well (without modifying the CDQ). I just prefer it the other way because I don't have this large piece of metal protruding from the side of the rifle.

With regards to the problem of the lockjaw opening accidentally, I had the same problem until I started using the locking cam. No problem after that. It's a minor issue as a majority of the time I'm using the sling in single point mode. The only time I use it in 2 point mode is when I'm just carrying the rifle.

[esskay]

On my lockjaw/CQD combo, I can hook in the way shown in the picture as well (without modifying the CDQ). I just prefer it the other way because I don't have this large piece of metal protruding from the side of the rifle.

With regards to the problem of the lockjaw opening accidentally, I had the same problem until I started using the locking cam. No problem after that. It's a minor issue as a majority of the time I'm using the sling in single point mode. The only time I use it in 2 point mode is when I'm just carrying the rifle.

Interesting! With my unmodified CQD the second picture is the only way that I can clip in the lockjaw. I suppose that means that there's either production variations in the CQD mounts or in the lockjaw...

I use the MS2 sling the same way as you. I just found that even without locking down the jaw, with a sling swivel it never accidentally opened, but with my unmodified CQD it did. So I'm also hoping tweaking the CQD will result in the lockjaw not opening accidentally when unlocked. If not, as you noted using the lock isn't the end of the world. We'll see!

[till44]

How about this KZ sling: http://www.botachtactical.com/kzslingadapter.html
I don't have the MS2 sling but I have the KZ sling adapter. Works great with a two point sling and is real solid.

[bombadillo]

Wow, saw a thread the other day about what we "Need" and apparently its a larger loop for sling attachments that isn't too thick to clip onto. That would benefit people greatly by the looks of it. I may end up modifying the CQD mount I just got off Rainier arms when it gets here and try to stretch the loop out a little bit for good measure as well as taking off some of the inside material.

[capntroy]

The CQD is the best mount for the lockjaw at this time. Costa's CQD has been cut in half and has been heavily dremeled all around the circumference of the inside to allow the lockjaw to swivel. I believe he's also taken a little off of the bottom lip of the lockjaw for good measure....

[bombadillo]

Well, got an email back after I originally started this thread so that would make it a little less than a week, and here is what they wrote back:

XXXXX, (Bombadillo)

Thank you for your inquiry and sorry for the late reply. While the guys have experimented with numerous mounts we have found that a standard 1.25” sling swivel works as well as any other mount in front (usually better).





If there is anything I can ever do for you, please feel free to contact me.



JUSTIN BEARD

Customer Service Manager

Magpul Industries Corporation

1.877.4MAGPUL x 118

Email: jbeard@magpul.com