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  • nrakid88
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    Locked longarm on school campus.

    So, i really want to be able to carry my shtf longarm with me everywhere. Thing is I go to csun, so I cant throw it in the car on school days. i am thinking about drafting a letter to the president of the school, as per cali law, to get permission to have my gun in my car in the parking lot. First, I want to really think is it worth it? I know if anything in the school happens, being that far away from a weapon won't help me resolve the situation. So it would be more for if I break down in a bad neighborhood or if there is some sort of riot in northridge as I drive home. Thats about the only uses I can think for it. I was also thinking if my car does get broken into, that could turn into a liability issue, but I would have a trigger lock on it.

    Anyone think its worth the effort to try to get permission? (which I will probably be denied)
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    Plisk
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    • Mar 2009
    • 3007

    I'd assume you're talking about a weapon similar to an AR-15. If a situation at a school were to arise to where you'd need an AR-15.... it's best left to the SWAT team. Running to the parking lot to get your rifle then going back into the school to "help" isn't a smart idea. Unless you're LE, I doubt you have a the proper training to handle such a situation (IE: Virgina Tech).

    Keeping any gun on school campus I think is asking for trouble. Since the law states you cannot posses a weapon on school campus I doubt a letter from the President of the school could change that.
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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Unfortunately, I think you're asking for trouble. Remember that BWO had a TRO just because he had posted pictures of himself with firearms on his myspace page! I would not be surprised if you were expelled just for asking. Yea, I know that it's not right but, you're talking about a campus within the City of LA!
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      • #4
        WeekendWarrior
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        • Dec 2008
        • 3536

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        • #5
          spareparts
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 738

          By my thinking, without proper justification, your request has a 99.99999% chance of failure. It may also put you on the radar and may cause you unwanted trouble down the road.

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          • #6
            cmonk518
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 152

            Doesn't sound very tactical to me at all. Whether in school or on the streets, longarm in trunk is not the way to go. Hypothetically, the time it takes for you to assess the situation, get into your trunk, get to your rifle, get to your magazine, load it, charge it, and all, you could have HAULED *** already. And I mean really haul *** in an active shooter situation, which is something ALL safe and prudent tactical instructors would advise doing. Find cover, assess, and get the f*ck out of there!!!

            Seriously, leave taking down active shooters to trained professionals, such as emergency response units and SWAT. You seriously don't want to take the fight to the enemy, esp at CSUN. That is just way crazy, esp with a longarm. I can GUARANTEE you in an active shooter situation, since you are not LE and have no badge, cap, vest, windbreaker, etc. ID'ing you as LE, you will most likely get shot. Any person with a huge longarm on school campus while an active shooter scenario is going down, is most likely going to get shot. I can just envision situations where LE and snipers can take you out just for having the rifle remotely aimed at an officer on such a huge campus. Not worth it at all....

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            • #7
              nrakid88
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 3285

              Whoah. Did anyone read my first post at all? I said i know being that far from my weapon won't help me while in school. It is for if the world falls apart or if i break down in a bad neighborhood. Jesus i am not a armchair commando i know better than to run to grab a gun then run it back into school... im not seven years old anymore, although i am thinking you guys are based on your reading comprehension.
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              • #8
                WeekendWarrior
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                • Dec 2008
                • 3536

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                Last edited by WeekendWarrior; 07-30-2014, 12:15 PM.
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                • #9
                  spareparts
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 738

                  Originally posted by WeekendWarrior
                  I still think you should not keep it in the trunk atschool though, and you should definitely NOT send a letter asking too. remember what state you are in. The Antis are everywhere!
                  I agree. It's best to stay off the radar. Just by what your hard drive may now contain you could help the prosecution when you say "I'm a good kid I don't have a criminal record, I didn't know I couldn't have the pistol unloaded and locked in my trunk while on school grounds." I can't imagine what an atorney could do with an on record denial letter from the Chancellor or President of the school.

                  I know I'm paranoid but that's better than five years at San Quentin.

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                  • #10
                    cmonk518
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 152

                    Originally posted by nrakid88
                    Whoah. Did anyone read my first post at all? I said i know being that far from my weapon won't help me while in school. It is for if the world falls apart or if i break down in a bad neighborhood. Jesus i am not a armchair commando i know better than to run to grab a gun then run it back into school... im not seven years old anymore, although i am thinking you guys are based on your reading comprehension.
                    I think people are confused because your thread topic does say "Locked Longarm on Campus..." and people are asking Why?? and providing you with answers that deal directly with being able to have a longarm on campus.

                    Hypothetically speaking, even if you were to get approved by the board to carry longarms (never happening), all the answers you got would still apply. It just doesn't make any sense nor is it tactically sound, no matter where you are in school or in a bad neighborhood, to have weapons in your trunk. Always better to have weapons on you than having to run to one.

                    And could you really imagine if you broke down in a really bad neighborhood, if you got out of your car, went to your trunk, and started tinkering with a non-concealable weapon such as a longarm!! Thugs always got their ear and eyes on high alert in their 'hood, whether because of rivals and cops. What is the first thing bangers think when they see someone non-LEO loading up a weapon such as a longarm or shotgun in their trunk in the hood. They are going to assume to are about to do a walk-by or drive-by and you will most likely have a hell of a time dealing with that scenario. Or if gang suppression or vice detectives are patrolling the 'hood and see someone loading up or carrying a rifle, whats likely going to happen.

                    Not very sound going the longgun route, stick with pistols and handguns that you can conceal....

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                    • #11
                      Plisk
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3007

                      Originally posted by nrakid88
                      So, i really want to be able to carry my shtf longarm with me everywhere. Thing is I go to csun, so I cant throw it in the car on school days. i am thinking about drafting a letter to the president of the school, as per cali law, to get permission to have my gun in my car in the parking lot. First, I want to really think is it worth it? I know if anything in the school happens, being that far away from a weapon won't help me resolve the situation. So it would be more for if I break down in a bad neighborhood or if there is some sort of riot in northridge as I drive home. Thats about the only uses I can think for it. I was also thinking if my car does get broken into, that could turn into a liability issue, but I would have a trigger lock on it.

                      Anyone think its worth the effort to try to get permission? (which I will probably be denied)
                      Ah ha! I mis-read that part. I think the others did as well, it's pretty subtle.
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                      • #12
                        nrakid88
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3285

                        Originally posted by Plisk
                        Ah ha! I mis-read that part. I think the others did as well, it's pretty subtle.
                        sorry, i am pretty scatterbrained when i communicate
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                        • #13
                          locosway
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 11346

                          Originally posted by Plisk
                          I'd assume you're talking about a weapon similar to an AR-15. If a situation at a school were to arise to where you'd need an AR-15.... it's best left to the SWAT team. Running to the parking lot to get your rifle then going back into the school to "help" isn't a smart idea. Unless you're LE, I doubt you have a the proper training to handle such a situation (IE: Virgina Tech).

                          Keeping any gun on school campus I think is asking for trouble. Since the law states you cannot posses a weapon on school campus I doubt a letter from the President of the school could change that.
                          The VT incident was over as soon as the assailant encountered an armed presence. So if that would hold true for his scenario then perhaps him getting his rifle would be the quickest means to an end.

                          What training does the average LEO have with their AR in their trunk? I bet most people here on CGN have more range time than LEO's.
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                            WeekendWarrior
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            • #15
                              Greg-Dawg
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 7793

                              Write the letter and see what happens.

                              Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on the Internet. So my opinion is not liable for anything.

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