Locked longarm on school campus.

[Plisk]

The VT incident was over as soon as the assailant encountered an armed presence. So if that would hold true for his scenario then perhaps him getting his rifle would be the quickest means to an end.

What training does the average LEO have with their AR in their trunk? I bet most people here on CGN have more range time than LEO's.

Yes, but the VT scenario won't be the same every time. Him running into the school with is AR-15 in hopes of that scenario will probably end badly.

The average LEO has training on how to handle hostile situation, weapons training isn't the issue. It's not hardware, its software.

[DPC]

1. you don't want to be the unintentional target of police when something happens.

2. Nobody but you has to know its there anyway!

[CSACANNONEER]

I enlightened the OP about BWO's past problems and, now he has decided not to even think about trying to do this.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Don't write the letter. And exactly who is going to know what you have in your trunk? (cough, cough, marlin papoose, cough)

[GoodEyeSniper]

Also consider this, in a SHTF situation, how far will your car be parked from your building. Most of the school shooting are over relatively quickly. Also, you are likely to be shot yourself as reports will surface "two armed gunmen in building XYZ, one with a handgun one with a rifle." Students and teachers will be too confused to recognize your role in the event and you will most likely be considered a suspect. I would say be prepared rather than armed. Know your exits, have a plan on what you're going to do (can you go out the window, what could you barricade the door with, etc.). If you are truly concerned for your safety, maybe look a vests rated to stop popular handgun calibers. You could also carry something like the Kimber pepper spray gun, as I am sure tasers are not OK, but OC should be fine. If you did retrieve your weapon if the SHTF, I'm sure it would not end well for you.

About the pepper spray, my sister said her college bans pepper spray on campus....? I got super pissed when she told me that, but then she told me she carries it anyways so there's that.

I mean, colleges are prime targets of muggings, car break ins, and rape. Denying pepper spray is just stupid. She might've been misinformed, though...

[audihenry]

So, i really want to be able to carry my shtf longarm with me everywhere. Thing is I go to csun, so I cant throw it in the car on school days. i am thinking about drafting a letter to the president of the school, as per cali law, to get permission to have my gun in my car in the parking lot. First, I want to really think is it worth it? I know if anything in the school happens, being that far away from a weapon won't help me resolve the situation. So it would be more for if I break down in a bad neighborhood or if there is some sort of riot in northridge as I drive home. Thats about the only uses I can think for it. I was also thinking if my car does get broken into, that could turn into a liability issue, but I would have a trigger lock on it.

Anyone think its worth the effort to try to get permission? (which I will probably be denied)

The extreme side of gun ownership is very scary indeed. What the hell are you so afraid of that you would want to keep a gun in your trunk??

Get some therapy man. No one in a million years will let you bring any sorts of weapons on campus and your letter is likely to put you on a list of students to watch.

[locosway]

About the pepper spray, my sister said her college bans pepper spray on campus....? I got super pissed when she told me that, but then she told me she carries it anyways so there's that.

I mean, colleges are prime targets of muggings, car break ins, and rape. Denying pepper spray is just stupid. She might've been misinformed, though...

She's not misinformed. They ban chemicals that can cause harm or that can be used against someone. OC and CS fall into that category.

Basically any and all weapons are banned defensive and offensive.

[joepamjohn]

The extreme side of gun ownership is very scary indeed. What the hell are you so afraid of that you would want to keep a gun in your trunk??

Get some therapy man. No one in a million years will let you bring any sorts of weapons on campus and your letter is likely to put you on a list of students to watch.

Agreed 100+%

This SHTF stuff is the craziest thing I have ever read. It is to the point where the SHTF "Commando's" are going to be more of a threat than any possible event that will happen.

Damn, this is the crap the anti-gun folks feast on.

[locosway]

Agreed 100+%

This SHTF stuff is the craziest thing I have ever read. It is to the point where the SHTF "Commando's" are going to be more of a threat than any possible event that will happen.

Damn, this is the crap the anti-gun folks feast on.

I drive around with a gun under my seat. People with CCW's drive around with a gun on their person. Cops drive around with a gun on their hip, one/two rifles in their car.

What's the problem? Am I somehow radical because I feel that I may need a gun outside of my home?

[joepamjohn]

People with CCW's have a reason to carry in California or they wouldn't be issued them. Cops have to worry about "bad guys" (imagine that), and apparently now SHTF commando's killing them when they pull a car over for a burnt out tail light ,so they also carry.

You carry for your own personal reasons, but are you as paranoid that the world is going to end before 5th. period as the OP seems to be? If you are, then a "radical" is not what I would call you.

This is a public forum and these subjects are viewed by people for and against gun ownership. For God's sake, act like SANE individuals and not Wild West gun toting goof balls. You wonder why your rights are slipping away every time you turn on the news? Get this kind of subject matter on the 6 O'clock news along with all of the other negative gun news and we can only blame ourselves. Just what we need more of.

[locosway]

I still don't see carrying a long gun, handgun, shotgun, or any other offensive/defensive tool in your car or person as being extreme. Practical, perhaps not, but extreme? Never.

If one, just one person had a rifle with a scope during the North Hollywood shoot out, it would have ended in minutes. Minutes being probably 5-10 as they stood in the open for long periods of time. Instead, it was a 44 minute shoot out with numerous wounded and a precedence that would change CA LEA policies forever.

How about in TX with Charles Whitman? LEO's didn't carry rifles, civilians did. Civilians had the power to push him further back into the tower quite possibly reducing some of the carnage.

"Once Whitman began facing return gunfire from the authorities and civilians who had brought out their personal firearms to assist police"

So, just because someone is prepared, that doesn't make them crazy, an extremist, or anything else. The problem comes from bad media, and/or bad actions from the individual.

[audihenry]

I still don't see carrying a long gun, handgun, shotgun, or any other offensive/defensive tool in your car or person as being extreme. Practical, perhaps not, but extreme? Never.

If one, just one person had a rifle with a scope during the North Hollywood shoot out, it would have ended in minutes. Minutes being probably 5-10 as they stood in the open for long periods of time. Instead, it was a 44 minute shoot out with numerous wounded and a precedence that would change CA LEA policies forever.

How about in TX with Charles Whitman? LEO's didn't carry rifles, civilians did. Civilians had the power to push him further back into the tower quite possibly reducing some of the carnage.

"Once Whitman began facing return gunfire from the authorities and civilians who had brought out their personal firearms to assist police"

So, just because someone is prepared, that doesn't make them crazy, an extremist, or anything else. The problem comes from bad media, and/or bad actions from the individual.

There is prepared and then there is "I have a mini armory in my closet to make the National Guard green with envy and at least 200 rounds on me wherever I go" prepared.

[locosway]

There is prepared and then there is "I have a mini armory in my closet to make the National Guard green with envy and at least 200 rounds on me wherever I go" prepared.

Ever heard of anyone complain about another person being over prepared for a disaster or loss of life incident?

Anyway, I agree some people can be over the top, but carrying a gun around is not being nuts.

[audihenry]

Ever heard of anyone complain about another person being over prepared for a disaster or loss of life incident?

Anyway, I agree some people can be over the top, but carrying a gun around is not being nuts.

It really is. Unless you have an occupation that would put you at a unique danger, there is no reason why you should be going around with a gun. The odds of you hurting yourself or someone else due to a mistake or carelessness or an accident is likely higher than the net benefit you will ever derive from driving around with a gun under your seat or on your holster.

Just because other states do this and some people here open carry does not justify it.

[locosway]

It really is. Unless you have an occupation that would put you at a unique danger, there is no reason why you should be going around with a gun. The odds of you hurting yourself or someone else due to a mistake or carelessness or an accident is likely higher than the net benefit you will ever derive from driving around with a gun under your seat or on your holster.

Just because other states do this and some people here open carry does not justify it.

Please tell me you're joking. PLEASE!!!

An unloaded firearm, in a locked case, under my seat, is no more dangerous than leaving it at home. Training? Sure, I go to the range once a week and I participate in tactical shoots at least once a month. Common sense? Yep, got that too...

So, please tell me again who I'm going to accidentally kill with my rogue gun that I tout around? While we're on this subject, do you fear that cops will somehow shoot innocent people with their guns that are not "safe" per California law?