Store a Firearm

[mk2dave]

Insults aside, there does seem to be a theme on CG telling posters what they should do rather than how to do what they asked about. And then they get mad at the poster for not detailing the route and itinerary for their trip. Should they detail their visit to Nana in Irvine on the way? Taking the 73, its a toll road.

OP is looking for a safe place to store his firearm in SD while he in Mexico. It doesnt matter why, what route, method of transportation, if he wears jeans....

OP, I think Discountgunmart might be your healing.

But what do I know, I'm low IQ.

[wayno21]

Mk2dave, thank you, and L84CABO, thanks you for just providing what was asked.
Why travel to Mexico, my brother who is a vet is flying in from FL. I will pick him up and we are going to travel to see our uncle is also a vet, He needs a few things done around his house, he is a tough old guy but not as mobile as he used to be. He was able to provide a great living to wife, who recently passed away on his small benefits. Its the first holidays for him being alone. They we married 52 years. Agreed TJ is a SH, I have completed my pretravel plans with 2 back ups to the first. We cross then hang a right, follow to coast, then head down about 45 minutes. His residence is minutes from beach, not that we are there for that and most likely will only get uncle to slow down for 1 hot meal. Remember, I only ask a question.

[IVC]

Start with the penal code - you can't lend or have someone unrelated keep the gun for you (there are many details, this is just a rough overview). Because of this, if you give it to a person it must be an FFL (there is a post above talking about this). And if it's not a person you're giving the gun to, you're looking for a short term self storage. Most of them wouldn't be considered safe storage and there are some state and some local storage laws that you might get exposed to.

With all of that said, I would agree that using an FFL to hold it for you might be the best option, if not the only one. You can't even leave it with a buddy.

[ar15barrels]

These guys do it for $15/month. I'm sure you can store it for just a few days but I have no idea what they charge for that. They also have two indoor ranges if you want to do some shooting.

Good luck...be safe...and bring me back some TACOS!

** They're right off the 5 too...Get off at SeaWorld Drive, head inland across the bridge and take a left at the first traffic light (by the gas station). Then they're down a little ways on your left. And the taco shop across the street is decent.

https://www.discountgunmart.com/info...rm-storage-faq

Works out to $95 for the storage contract, first month of storage (probably applies to the first day overnight that the gun spends there) and the DROS which is probably going to have a 10day wait at the time of pickup.

A $50 detail strip and cleaning at a gunsmith would definitely be a better deal.
I would not mention to the gunsmith that you need to store it.
Just ask how long it will take to clean it and when you can pick up.

[edgerly779]

Take it to ffl for cleaning and pick it up on way back. No dros involved.

[ar15barrels]

Take it to ffl for cleaning and pick it up on way back. No dros involved.

I am pretty sure that the storage contract and DROS requirement is because most people looking to store a firearm are people who have been court ordered to get rid of their firearms.
If you can't pass a DROS when the storage is complete, the storage facility gets to dispose of them if you don't keep paying the storage or find buyers for them.

[M1NM]

What about a pawn shop?
Don't know what you'd do with the ammo - that's also a no go in Mexico.
Locker at the airport or train station?

[edgerly779]

I typed luggage storage in san diego pn google search and got many hits. OP clueless I guess. Just us low class people using the Yahoo system. (YOU ALWAYS HAVE OTHER OPTIONS)

[Quiet]

I am sure this has been asked on prior post, but I did not find it. Is there a place where a person traveling can store a firearm prior to entering Mexico, then retrieve it once they return.

Contact a CA FFL dealer near the border and ask them if they provide a storage service.

[SoldierLife7]

Is it illegal to store firearms in a storage unit?

[BigPimping]

My God just leave it at home? That would simplify things greatly.

[Quiet]

Start with the penal code - you can't lend or have someone unrelated keep the gun for you (there are many details, this is just a rough overview). Because of this, if you give it to a person it must be an FFL (there is a post above talking about this). And if it's not a person you're giving the gun to, you're looking for a short term self storage. Most of them wouldn't be considered safe storage and there are some state and some local storage laws that you might get exposed to.

With all of that said, I would agree that using an FFL to hold it for you might be the best option, if not the only one. You can't even leave it with a buddy.

When CA laws about loaning were recently amended (effective 01-01-2020), "storage" became a type of "loan" and the CA legislature enacted an exemption for specific types of storage loans.

One type of storage loan can apply to the OP, if all of the following conditions are met:
1. The firearms are registered to the OP. [PC 27883(a)]
2. The transferee is a non-prohibited person aged 18 or older. [PC 27883(d)(e)]
3. The firearms are being stored at the transferee's residence and they will not leave the transferee's property for the duration of the storage loan. [PC 27883(b)(c)]
4. The firearms are in a locked container or in a safe or disabled by a firearm safety device. [PC 27883(f)] The OP will need to retain the key/combo to the container/safe/safety device.
5. The storage is for 120 days or less. [PC 27883(g)]
6. No compensation (money/goods) is given for the storage loan. [PC 27883(h)]
7. There is a document that details the conditions of the storage loan (why and how long for), lists the firearms (make, model, serial number) being stored and is signed by both the OP and transferee. [PC 27883(i)(j)]
^CA DOJ BOF is supposed to have a form for this, but they have not released it to the public.



Penal Code 27545
Where neither party to the transaction holds a dealer’s license issued pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, the parties to the transaction shall complete the sale, loan, or transfer of that firearm through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).

Penal Code 27883
Section 27545 does not apply to the loan of a firearm provided all of the following requirements are met:
(a) The firearm being loaned is registered to the person making the loan pursuant to Section 11106.
(b) The firearm being loaned is stored in the receiver’s place of residence or in an enclosed structure on the receiver’s private property, which is not zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial activity.
(c) The firearm at all times stays within the receiver’s place of residence or in an enclosed structure on the receiver’s private property, which is not zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial activity.
(d) The individual receiving the firearm is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
(e) The individual receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.
(f) One of the following applies:
(1) The firearm is maintained within a locked container.
(2) The firearm is disabled by a firearm safety device.
(3) The firearm is maintained within a locked gun safe.
(4) The firearm is locked with a locking device, as defined in Section 16860, which has rendered the firearm inoperable.
(g) The loan does not exceed 120 days in duration.
(h) The loan is made without consideration.
(i) There is a written document in a format prescribed by the Department of Justice that explains the obligations imposed by this section that is signed by both the party loaning the firearm for storage and the person receiving the firearm.
(j) Both parties to the loan have signed copies of the written document required by subdivision (i).

[IVC]

When CA laws about loaning were recently amended (effective 01-01-2020), "storage" became a type of "loan" and the CA legislature enacted an exemption for specific types of storage loans.

In addition, there are "secondary exposure" consequences if someone unauthorized gets access to the gun. A big mess that reads as a mine field for gun owners. Combined with unfriendly DAs, it's often just not worth pushing the limit.

[kcheung2]

My God just leave it at home? That would simplify things greatly.

No you can't say that. You can't give alternatives, that is absolutely forbidden! You can only answer the question directly. Even if the question is vague or leaves out important details (like flying or driving), doesn't matter, if your IQ was high enough you would know those details.

[Garbcollector]

Leave it at home unless you have a place to store it safely in the San Diego area