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  • anyracoon
    Veteran Member
    • May 2006
    • 3682

    AR Pistol Lowers?

    What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?
  • #2
    tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    Not sure it makes a difference. If it is ever sold or investigated it needs to be marked semi pistol in the paperwork. I have a lower that says M4 Government use only or something. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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      Capybara
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      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15107

      Markings don't really matter, it's how it was created and sold/registered that matters. I could take one of my AR rifles and have the receiver engraved "pistol',
      but legally, that is meaningless as it's not a pistol.
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      • #4
        hitdank
        Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 361

        I think he may be refering to the aero "PISTOL" lower receiver. It is how you dros it in california that matters.

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        • #5
          SISKIN
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 872

          I have an EDS Tactical with markings that says Pistol Only. But it was DROS'ed as a semi auto...

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          • #6
            naz
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2020
            • 3107

            Originally posted by SISKIN
            I have an EDS Tactical with markings that says Pistol Only. But it was DROS'ed as a semi auto...

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            • #7
              Capybara
              CGSSA Coordinator
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2012
              • 15107

              Originally posted by naz
              The key thing to look at on the dros is whether it says “handgun”
              Is it true that the only legal way to acquire an AR Pistol today in California is to DROS a Franklin Arms CA-7 or PPT a used pistol registered AR lower or AR pistol firearm?

              There is no other currently legal path in California to acquire an AR pistol unless you are exempt, correct? Because of the roster, there are no dimensionally compliant semi-automatic lowers or semi automatic AR pistols on the roster. The CA-7 is a bolt action pistol so it is exempt, correct?

              I've tried following this for a while and it does seem bit confusing.
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              • #8
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 14974

                Originally posted by anyracoon
                What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?

                Location: Now Free America - S.E. Reno
                Not everyone here read that info.

                I'm guessing you are talking about one you bought in NV?

                If so, just build a pistol on it and enjoy. I probably wouldn't build a rifle on it as it may confuse LEO's and is not worth trying to explain it to them.
                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #9
                  beanz2
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12032

                  Originally posted by anyracoon
                  What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?
                  Always build it first into a pistol. Then build it into a rifle or SBR once you have the stamp. That way it is legal to revert back to a pistol.

                  Originally posted by morrcarr67
                  Not everyone here read that info.

                  I'm guessing you are talking about one you bought in NV?

                  If so, just build a pistol on it and enjoy. I probably wouldn't build a rifle on it as it may confuse LEO's and is not worth trying to explain it to them.
                  Now, this guy reads his posts carefully.

                  In NV I wouldn't worry about it even if it says "pistol", unless it is built into a SBR and you don't have the stamp.
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                  • #10
                    anyracoon
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 3682

                    The reason I asked is I'm thinking of building some AR Pistols for the grandkids and they are all still in Cali.
                    Last edited by anyracoon; 08-10-2022, 9:08 PM.

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                    • #11
                      SISKIN
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 872

                      Originally posted by naz
                      The key thing to look at on the dros is whether it says “handgun”
                      Yes it does say handgun on the dros...
                      Last edited by SISKIN; 08-10-2022, 6:45 PM. Reason: n/a

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                      • #12
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        I've seen AR pistol lowers in the marketplace for $700 to $1000. Crazy

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                        • #13
                          naz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 3107

                          Originally posted by Capybara
                          Is it true that the only legal way to acquire an AR Pistol today in California is to DROS a Franklin Arms CA-7 or PPT a used pistol registered AR lower or AR pistol firearm?

                          There is no other currently legal path in California to acquire an AR pistol unless you are exempt, correct? Because of the roster, there are no dimensionally compliant semi-automatic lowers or semi automatic AR pistols on the roster. The CA-7 is a bolt action pistol so it is exempt, correct?

                          I've tried following this for a while and it does seem bit confusing.
                          You can also dros a single shot exempt pistol that’s put together by an ffl07

                          ”forum consensus” seems to be that ppt a pistol registered lower that’s dros as semi auto handgun is a bit more certain since there is speculation gov will try to jam you up on “manufacturing unsafe handgun” charge if you convert a single shot exempt or bolt action repeater (ca7) to semi auto, since there is no test case for that yet

                          AW rules still apply too, so maglock with 10rd mags if it’s semi auto

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                          • #14
                            damngato
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 3393

                            Since it is for his direct grandkids can't he just do an intrafamilial transfer through a FFL once each pistol has the CA compliance component taken care of
                            Link for feedback -

                            https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...4#post28181454

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                            • #15
                              Milsurp1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 3091

                              Just an FYI, for people reading this on the mobile site it does not show your location info, signature file, etc.

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