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  • #16
    67Cuda
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1724

    Originally posted by wussery
    Are PCC's legal in California provided they have a 10 round magazine?
    Get one that doesn't use Glock mags.
    Originally posted by ivanimal
    People that call other member stupid get time off.
    So much for being honest.

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    • #17
      ysr_racer
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 12014

      Originally posted by 67Cuda
      Get one that doesn't use Glock mags.
      That make no sense. Glock mags are cheap and plentiful.

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      • #18
        ysr_racer
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 12014

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        It's not unusual at big PCC matches to have shots from 150 to 200 yards.
        It's not unusual at USPSA matchs where they have a PCC class to have shots from 15 to 20 yards.

        Where are these big PCC matches with 200 years shots that you speak of?

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        • #19
          VolvoWrench
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1007

          I'm drossing this in a few hours. It will be my second one. I'm trying to keep up with YSR.

          Boston Strong!

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          • #20
            ysr_racer
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 12014

            Originally posted by VolvoWrench
            I'm drossing this in a few hours. It will be my second one. I'm trying to keep up with YSR.

            https://www.glockstore.com/FM-9-Comp...94&custcol19=1
            Nice

            Foxtrot Mike makes a good lower. Especially if you're using a CMMG RDB Radial Delayed Blowback 9mm barrel and bolt.

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            • #21
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19936

              Originally posted by ysr_racer
              It's not unusual at USPSA matchs where they have a PCC class to have shots from 15 to 20 yards.

              Where are these big PCC matches with 200 years shots that you speak of?
              AZ PCC state championship in September, and other matches put on by Tucson and Phoenix clubs.

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              • #22
                67Cuda
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1724

                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                That make no sense. Glock mags are cheap and plentiful.
                Glock mags in Glocks are great. In PCCs they looks like an after thought, a turd hanging below the rifle and a lazyness on the manufacture to design a complete fire arm that looks good.
                I know many here love that, but I disagree. So if someone is asking, I'll give them something else to consider.
                Originally posted by ivanimal
                People that call other member stupid get time off.
                So much for being honest.

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                • #23
                  walmart_ar15
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2344

                  What common PCC are there that does not use an adopted pistol mag?

                  CZ Scorpion (CZ mag)
                  PSA AR-V (CZ mag)
                  SIG MPX (Sig mag)
                  Kalashnikov KR-9 (its own)
                  IWI Tavor X95 (Colt 9mm or mod UZI)
                  UZI clone (UZI)
                  HK94 clone (HK mag)
                  HK USC (HK mag)
                  Colt AR9 clone (Colt 9mm or mod UZI)
                  Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 (its own)

                  There are other less common 9mm SMG clones PCC out there that uses surplus SMG mags, but they are few in between.
                  Last edited by walmart_ar15; 08-02-2022, 9:19 AM.

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                  • #24
                    skeeter149
                    Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 253

                    Ruger pcc is fun, been reliable and has a healthy aftermarket following. Comes with the ruger mag insert and the glock mag insert in the box. Is a take down as well. I like it

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                    • #25
                      JWHuey
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2300

                      I run 33 round freedom week mags in my ruger...
                      sigpic

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                      • #26
                        Mac Attack
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2127

                        I got into a PCC kick the last several years and have a nice starting collection. They are range toys only and I would never choose any of them over a AR15. PCCs really shine suppressed and are more affordable to shoot the rifle calibers. So far I have or have owned:

                        CZ Scorpion with brace (traded)
                        Kriss Vector with brace
                        B&T APC9 Pro SBR
                        UZI SBR
                        MKE AP5P SBR (MP5K PDW clone)
                        MKE AP5 SBR (pending ATF approval)

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                        • #27
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19936

                          Noveske 10mm uses HK UMP mags I think.

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                          • #28
                            pzbike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 642

                            The Beretta CX4 is(was) a great shooter, until the California grip fin!!!
                            Ruined a great firearm

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                            • #29
                              Robert1234
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3081

                              Originally posted by walmart_ar15
                              What common PCC are there that does not use an adopted pistol mag?

                              CZ Scorpion (CZ mag)
                              PSA AR-V (CZ mag)
                              SIG MPX (Sig mag)
                              Kalashnikov KR-9 (its own)
                              IWI Tavor X95 (Colt 9mm or mod UZI)
                              UZI clone (UZI)
                              HK94 clone (HK mag)
                              HK USC (HK mag)
                              Colt AR9 clone (Colt 9mm or mod UZI)
                              Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 (its own)

                              There are other less common 9mm SMG clones PCC out there that uses surplus SMG mags, but they are few in between.
                              The only magazine in this list that fits a pistol is the Glock mag. The rest are specifically designed magazines for the specific PCC.

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                              • #30
                                walmart_ar15
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2344

                                Originally posted by Robert1234
                                The only magazine in this list that fits a pistol is the Glock mag. The rest are specifically designed magazines for the specific PCC.

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