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  • wussery
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2021
    • 67

    Pistol Caliber Carbine

    Are PCC's legal in California provided they have a 10 round magazine?
  • #2
    Canucky
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 4265

    Originally posted by wussery
    Are PCC's legal in California provided they have a 10 round magazine?
    Yes.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2012
      • 23528

      It depends on configuration. Some are illegal period. Some are legal with fixed 10rd mags. Some are legal with >10rd removable mags
      Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Originally posted by wussery
        Pistol Caliber Carbine

        Are PCC's legal in California provided they have a 10 round magazine?
        In order to be CA legal, they must be configured to comply with CA SBR laws [PC 17170] and CA assault weapons laws [PC 30515(a)(1),(2),(3).



        Penal Code 17170
        As used in this part, “short-barreled rifle” means any of the following:
        (a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
        (b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
        (c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
        (d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
        (e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

        Penal Code 30515
        (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
        (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
        (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
        (B) A thumbhole stock.
        (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
        (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
        (E) A flash suppressor.
        (F) A forward pistol grip.
        (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
        (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
        Last edited by Quiet; 07-28-2022, 7:51 PM.
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        • #5
          bugsy714
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 2418

          dictated but not read

          Voice typing will butcher whatever I was trying to say

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          • #6
            Helmut
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2018
            • 907

            I use 33 round Glock mags in my PC carbine from freedom week. Fun times.

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            • #7
              ysr_racer
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
              • 12014

              Yep, I've got two

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              • #8
                TrailerparkTrash
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4249

                I love my Ruger PC carbine with M-LOK foregrip, MCARBO mini-muzzle break (doesn’t really do much for 9mm) and Glock mag-well sleeve. It’s a fun coyote plinking gun…..in Arizona with LEAD bullets (‘MERICA!)
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                • #9
                  Garbcollector
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 2427

                  I'd buy the ruger pcc

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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20826

                    pcc is not defined in legislature it is simply a rifle and must comply with rifle laws depending on its action

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                    • #11
                      champu
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 1981

                      Originally posted by ysr_racer
                      Yep, I've got two
                      Originally posted by ysr_racer
                      Yep, I've got two
                      So four then?

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                      • #12
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        Originally posted by champu
                        So four then?
                        Yes, yes.

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                        • #13
                          highpower
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2012
                          • 5307

                          MLC member.

                          Biden, proof that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

                          Dumocraps suck balls.

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                          • #14
                            ysr_racer
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 12014

                            For me, it's cheaper to shoot 9mm than 5.56/.223. Plus I only shoot out to 50 yards, so 9mm is plenty.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19789

                              It's not unusual at big PCC matches to have shots from 150 to 200 yards.

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