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  • #31
    igs
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 941

    Originally posted by OCEquestrian
    Make sure the last round in the gun is hollow point for you.
    ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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    • #32
      igs
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 941

      Originally posted by Jeepergeo
      Where exactly have you or will you encounter bears and what species of bear will they be?
      National parks in CA. So CCW, no rifles!
      ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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      • #33
        Prepped and ready
        • Jun 2013
        • 951

        460 Rowland or S&W 500

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        • #34
          subscriber
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 929

          Hollow point bullets make a larger than caliber hole, at the expense of penetration. With larger animals penetration depth has to be considered first.

          You don't state the caliber part of the question, but if it were small or wimpy for bear, such as 9 mm P, or .45 ACP, then hollow points are not going to penetrate deep enough on a large bear for reliable vital organ perforation. So, FMJ or hard cast with a 50% meplat nose.

          The above is good advice, even for .44 Mag handguns. Barrel length and action type also come into the equation.

          If you are shooting a .338 Lapua, then an expanding bullet may be better than a FMJ.

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          Last edited by subscriber; 07-01-2022, 9:11 PM.

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          • #35
            plumbum
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2010
            • 5394

            Originally posted by squeeze
            Ahhh, just asking for a friend as to where a gang rape by VS models is most likely to occur?
            I haven't been up to date lately, but you make want to verify what VS has been hawking with the wokeness and body positivity and inclusions being introduced to the once great Angels.... may not want to be vulnerable.
            Originally posted by ysr_racer
            Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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            • #36
              subscriber
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 929

              Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
              Your are probably more likely to be gang raped by Victoria Secret underware models than attacked by a black bear in CA.

              Who stated the location and species of bear? Rather than assume, ask.

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              • #37
                WingDings
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 1278

                Remington green and white box twelve gauge two and three quarter double aught buckshot nine pellet.

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                • #38
                  subscriber
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 929

                  I think Harrell would recommend slugs for bear.

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                  • #39
                    Sutcliffe
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 6792

                    You want big

                    For black bear a .357 is likely enough to do the job with most any bullet.

                    For grizzly 10 MM with cast bullets are about the best choice. .44 or .45 revolver bullets with cast slugs are good, but limit you to 5-6 shots. You are unlikely to have the luxury of getting a reload during a bear encounter.

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                    • #40
                      ABR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1162

                      Originally posted by Sutcliffe
                      For black bear a .357 is likely enough to do the job with most any bullet.

                      For grizzly 10 MM with cast bullets are about the best choice. .44 or .45 revolver bullets with cast slugs are good, but limit you to 5-6 shots. You are unlikely to have the luxury of getting a reload during a bear encounter.
                      sigpic
                      "Leave the gun, take the cannoli"

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                      • #41
                        Fjold
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 22837

                        It depends on the firearm such as rifle, pistol, shotgun, airgun, bow, crossbow, slingshot, etc.,

                        What cartridge?

                        Do you mean for self defense or war?
                        Frank

                        One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                        Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                        • #42
                          subscriber
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 929

                          Originally posted by Fjold

                          Do you mean for self defense or war?

                          For bear....

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                          • #43
                            Beelzy
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 9224

                            So, in the real world...I know an Alaskan hunting guide who carries a AR15 with 30 round mags. He told me when a charging grizzly is coming at you, it's mag dump to the nervous system, poste haste.
                            "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                            • #44
                              subscriber
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 929

                              Well, a record grizzly was killed with a .22 rimfire rife: https://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/wha...izzly-in-1953/. So, an AR could work, but that does not make it a good choice.

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                              • #45
                                The Gleam
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 11917

                                9mm is more than enough.

                                It will blow his lungs out.

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                                Originally posted by Librarian
                                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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