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  • #16
    Jeepergeo
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 3506

    Originally posted by igs
    Best Ammo Against Bear
    Where exactly have you or will you encounter bears and what species of bear will they be?

    How will you be sure the "bear" are not "Zombies" dressed up to look like bear? Zombies are an entirely different beast.
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    • #17
      Rcjackrabbit
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 971

      Sharedshots nailed it. Learn about bear behavior first. Here is the expert.



      Your are probably more likely to be gang raped by Victoria Secret underware models than attacked by a black bear in CA.

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      • #18
        Jimi Jah
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2014
        • 18372

        45-70 with a hot load.

        That killed off the grizzly bears here in California.

        The last one was killed here in Valley Center around 1910.

        It weighed 2600 pounds, a buffalo sized bear.

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        • #19
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44640

          Originally posted by Bansh88
          Ah, the annual "Bear Ammo" thread!
          Yes, we do get these.

          Seriously, we need more information.

          Where are you going to be that you expect to encounter bears? What species of bears are likely? California is different from Alaska.

          Are you hunting, or thinking of self defense? In either case, if you expect an encounter with a bear, long guns are far preferable to handguns.

          See https://www.americanhunter.org/conte...ar-cartridges/ for more on ammo choices and https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...uct_list&c=108
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #20
            MeatyMac
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 1915

            Neither of your 2 choices is the best, OP...

            You want to transfer as much energy as you can and you want the projectile to stay intact, soooo,

            Hard cast lead if you only have a handgun.

            Solid copper ballistic tip if you're shooting a rifle.
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            • #21
              edgerly779
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              Depends on bear species. OP not a hunter I guess. In my 44 mag I shoot 265 gr conical silhouette bullets same as I use for hogs. Add jsp's to your poll dummy.
              Last edited by edgerly779; 06-26-2022, 10:51 AM.

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              • #22
                tanks
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 4038

                I prefer a rifle, in this case 325 grains going 2,900 fps.

                "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                • #23
                  Maulerrr
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2058

                  I feel like FMJ alone still isn't an accurate description. You need a boutique hardcast projectile moreso than standard fmj ball in most cases

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                  • #24
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by Bansh88
                    Ah, the annual "Bear Ammo" thread!
                    Like all the other Calguns bear threads, the suckage is massive.
                    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

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                    • #25
                      Mesa Defense
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2172

                      Everyone knows 5.56 40 grain exterminators are "the best" for bruins.....

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                      • #26
                        wooshna
                        Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 186

                        9mm extreme penetrators is what I carry when hiking or camping here in CA. Don't need to worry about browns or grizzlies just mountain lions, black bears and the infamous 2 legged bear.

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                        • #27
                          Notpc
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3251

                          Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                          Make sure the last round in the gun is hollow point for you.
                          You forgot the obligatory "file the front sight off", cause you know what the bear is gonna do with that gun ..............

                          These threads always deliver.............
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                          • #28
                            hntnnut
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1066

                            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                            45-70 with a hot load.

                            That killed off the grizzly bears here in California.

                            The last one was killed here in Valley Center around 1910.

                            It weighed 2600 pounds, a buffalo sized bear.
                            there was one killed in Swarthout canyon near Wrightwood in the early 1920s

                            Richard
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                            • #29
                              squeeze
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1317

                              Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                              Sharedshots nailed it. Learn about bear behavior first. Here is the expert.



                              Your are probably more likely to be gang raped by Victoria Secret underware models than attacked by a black bear in CA.
                              Ahhh, just asking for a friend as to where a gang rape by VS models is most likely to occur?

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                              • #30
                                SharedShots
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2021
                                • 2277

                                Originally posted by SharedShots
                                Best Ammo?

                                Your brain.

                                .
                                Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                                Sharedshots nailed it. Learn about bear behavior first. Here is the expert.



                                Your are probably more likely to be gang raped by Victoria Secret underware models than attacked by a black bear in CA.
                                Originally posted by squeeze
                                Ahhh, just asking for a friend as to where a gang rape by VS models is most likely to occur?
                                Erruuuhhmmm.

                                Concealed is concealed.

                                Let Go of the Status Quo!

                                Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

                                Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

                                Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

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