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  • LMan57
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    Originally posted by Creative300
    If I were you I would request a refund since they gave you the wrong info that's on them. If they refuse then do a chargeback if you paid by card and explain the reason to your bank because that would certainly be a valid reason for most banks. I would never do business with that place again if they are that incompetent.
    I paid the guy that did the live scan $50.00 total he paid the DOJ out of that.
    it does look like they had me submit the wrong form this fire arm purchase is getting more more expensive all for a. 22 pistol. I should try and buy some ammo and see what happens.

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  • The Gleam
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    Originally posted by Creative300
    Doesn't matter if some alleged criminal has your exact same name. He or she doesn't have your same driver license number, state ID or social security number. That's why ID numbers, driver license numbers, social security numbers were invented to distinguish between all the John Smiths and Jane Smiths of the world. But apparently things don't work like that in the California DOJ.

    No legitimate government or government agency in the modern world uses only names to identify people. It's total stupid BS. You are guilty simply because you may have the same name as someone who might have committed a crime. They don't bother to check anything else. Or more likely there isn't any criminal with your same name at all they just lie to you as an excuse to not approve you.
    That was the entirety of my point; it's why the DOJ's notification letter that expresses the name issue as a primary reason is full of crap.

    All of this is going to come to a head soon, and all at once, as they are overdoing their abuse of power with this delay/undetermined ruse, combined with the CCW PPI release, ignoring proper actions in the advent of Bruen, passing gobs of new nonsensical Anti-2nd Amendment legislation - the levee is gonna break.

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  • Creative300
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    Originally posted by LMan57
    I noticed that I'm going to call them that is the one he told me to use if it's wrong I guess I'm out the $50.00 for the first scan..
    If I were you I would request a refund since they gave you the wrong info that's on them. If they refuse then do a chargeback if you paid by card and explain the reason to your bank because that would certainly be a valid reason for most banks. I would never do business with that place again if they are that incompetent.

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  • LMan57
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    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    The livescan needs to be routed to the firearms bureau for the firearms bureau to see it.
    I don't think livescans for school workers make it over to firearms bureau.
    I noticed that I'm going to call them that is the one he told me to use if it's wrong I guess I'm out the $50.00 for the first scan..

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  • Creative300
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    Originally posted by The Gleam
    This is simply happening too often, to too many people, with clear-cut situations such as current CCWs or other simultaneous DROS apps going through without hiccup that clearly convey they are not a prohibited person, with unique/esoteric names that have no chance some prohibited person has a like and kind name for the same address, with that data captured off the magnetic strip on the DL, who have lived at the same address for years, have DROS'ed dozens of guns over the past several years and even up to recent months, never even somuch as a parking ticket in more than 10 years to have caused alarm - all without this nonsensical 'delay" subterfuge - for it to simply be case of 'undetermined' on identity.


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    Doesn't matter if some alleged criminal has your exact same name. He or she doesn't have your same driver license number, state ID or social security number. That's why ID numbers, driver license numbers, social security numbers were invented to distinguish between all the John Smiths and Jane Smiths of the world. But apparently things don't work like that in the California DOJ.

    No legitimate government or government agency in the modern world uses only names to identify people. It's total stupid BS. You are guilty simply because you may have the same name as someone who might have committed a crime. They don't bother to check anything else. Or more likely there isn't any criminal with your same name at all they just lie to you as an excuse to not approve you.

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  • pacrat
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    THE WHOLE DAMN HUGE # OF DELAYED BS

    IS A GUN CONTROL SCAM.

    Getting a delayed determination letter. Telling you to do what YOU ALREADY PAID the BOF to do. WHICH IS A BG CHECK RELATED TO FIREARMS

    Is ludicrous. Might as well word the letter honestly.

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    From the desk of The Dishonorable Ca AG Robber Bonta;

    Dear citizen,

    Thank you for the $37 donation to our BOF DONUT FUND. SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO THE STATE MANDATED BG CHECK. THAT YOU ALREADY PAID FOR.

    So, how about you, Do YOUR OWN BG CHECK. And pay for it out of pocket, ... AGAIN. And let us know what the result is. Or we will just keep SCREWING YOU OVER, AND OVER, BECAUSE WE CAN.

    Yours Truly; The Dishonorable Robber Bonta.


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  • The Gleam
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    This is simply happening too often, to too many people, with clear-cut situations such as current CCWs or other simultaneous DROS apps going through without hiccup that clearly convey they are not a prohibited person, with unique/esoteric names that have no chance some prohibited person has a like and kind name for the same address, with that data captured off the magnetic strip on the DL, who have lived at the same address for years, have DROS'ed dozens of guns over the past several years and even up to recent months, never even somuch as a parking ticket in more than 10 years to have caused alarm - all without this nonsensical 'delay" subterfuge - for it to simply be case of 'undetermined' on identity.

    This fecal laced hostility from Glock-blocker Bonta is becoming too common to have any merit or credibility.

    Think 'House UnAmerican Activities Commitee' but in reverse; the Communists are using abuse of power to attack Americans.

    They will continue to do this and increase the frequency of doing it until the CRPA signals an inquiry, or until they are flat out sued for abuse of power, civil rights violations, and underground gun control.

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    Last edited by The Gleam; 07-27-2022, 12:10 AM.

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  • ar15barrels
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    Originally posted by LMan57
    Not sure I did a live scan years ago for teaching credentials you think those would still be on file I live at the same address nothing has changed.
    The livescan needs to be routed to the firearms bureau for the firearms bureau to see it.
    I don't think livescans for school workers make it over to firearms bureau.

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  • ar15barrels
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    Originally posted by jonc
    PPT in JUNE was Delayed..

    Now a July PPT Delayed!!!!

    Sucks to wait 30day!!


    NOT a common name .
    been buying since 1997.
    No issues at all ..


    I was told once a "Delayed" happens
    on a name , it will be a normal thing with any
    future purchase of a firearm..

    Not sure if it True....

    thanks!
    Keep trying until you have 5-6 delays in a straight row and then we will know better.
    Most people just get a livescan and then re-dros with good results.

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  • mjdlc805
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  • 66nick
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    Originally posted by mjdlc805
    June 26.....Dros
    July 5........Got a call from FFL saying I've been delayed
    July 7........Was supposed to be pick up day
    July 25......Got letter from DOJ saying I've been delayed dated July 4
    July 25......Got a call from FFL saying that I've been approved
    July 26......Picked up

    BTW Camarillo Gun Store in Ventura County will release on undetermined.
    Very nice folks.
    Originally posted by pacrat
    Please contact member "66nick" on this thread. And advise him of this. He is compiling a searchable list of "NOT A TURD" FFLs. Who comply with Ca pc-28220[4]
    https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...1#post27095621
    Got them, thanks!

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  • pacrat
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    Originally posted by mjdlc805
    June 26.....Dros
    July 5........Got a call from FFL saying I've been delayed
    July 7........Was supposed to be pick up day
    July 25......Got letter from DOJ saying I've been delayed dated July 4
    July 25......Got a call from FFL saying that I've been approved
    July 26......Picked up

    BTW Camarillo Gun Store in Ventura County will release on undetermined.
    Very nice folks.
    Please contact member "66nick" on this thread. And advise him of this. He is compiling a searchable list of "NOT A TURD" FFLs. Who comply with Ca pc-28220[4]

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  • LMan57
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    Originally posted by HOGDOG1955
    about 2 or 3 months ago i got a dros delay which turned into a undetermined. it was at turners salinas and since turners corporate policy is t not release on undetermined ,they refunded my money except for the dros fee. well...... i went and drosed another gun last monday and ill be damned if the doj didnt delay me again on friday. this is getting very irritating and all the doj said i can do is go get a new livescan. i dont understand this as im not being denied so why all this nonsense. instead of spending 100 plus bucks for the scan im just gonna wait to see if it goes undetermined. im afraid im going to miss out on guns i really want since i allready missed out on another consignment gun i couldnt buy as i was on delay. this stae is trying to disarm us one way or another.
    I'm thinking this may be one more form of gun control...
    Last edited by LMan57; 07-26-2022, 2:16 PM.

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  • HOGDOG1955
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    about 2 or 3 months ago i got a dros delay which turned into a undetermined. it was at turners salinas and since turners corporate policy is t not release on undetermined ,they refunded my money except for the dros fee. well...... i went and drosed another gun last monday and ill be damned if the doj didnt delay me again on friday. this is getting very irritating and all the doj said i can do is go get a new livescan. i dont understand this as im not being denied so why all this nonsense. instead of spending 100 plus bucks for the scan im just gonna wait to see if it goes undetermined. im afraid im going to miss out on guns i really want since i allready missed out on another consignment gun i couldnt buy as i was on delay. this stae is trying to disarm us one way or another.

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  • LMan57
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    Here is the link to the form the DOJ Agent said to fill out.

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