Advise Needed

[juanito00]

[racinjason233]

Sell it to private party at FFL. He takes gun to parking lot. Buyer looks over the gun and gives him cash. They walk into FFL and both give driver’s license. he gets his license back and walks away.

[juanito00]

Can he sell it privately (via FFL) when the pistol is not registered to him?

[ar15barrels]

Can he sell it privately (via FFL) when the pistol is not registered to him?

Yes.
There is no requirement of registration to be able to sell.
They don't even check for that.
There are tons of pre-1991 handguns floating around CA which are not registered to their current owners because before 1991, you could buy from a private party without involving a firearms dealer.

The only thing that would get checked for is if the gun is stolen previously and not marked as recovered but that should come up during the 10 day wait.

[morrcarr67]

I have a friend who purchased 1911 pistol from his neighbor about 30 years ago; however, he never transferred/registered the pistol under his name. The neighbor has moved away, and my friend doesn’t know how to find him. I believe the pistol is just sitting at his safe since he purchased. For now, he just wants to get rid the pistol properly. What are his options?

Why?

Can he sell it privately (via FFL) when the pistol is not registered to him?

Sure he can, but why?

Yes.
There is no requirement of registration to be able to sell.
They don't even check for that.
There are tons of pre-1991 handguns floating around CA which are not registered to their current owners because before 1991, you could buy from a private party without involving a firearms dealer.

The only thing that would get checked for is if the gun is stolen previously and not marked as recovered but that should come up during the 10 day wait.

This is correct. When I was in the industry the first time; back in the 80's, I would carry about a $1K with me all the time. I would buy guns from people that didn't like what the gun store owner offered. When the seller left I would ask the owner if they mined if I went out to talk to them. If they said no I would follow the guy out the door and offer them $25 more the the store owner. Sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't. It was a great way to build my collection.

[divingin]

I have several pistols transferred face to face 30 years ago. No paperwork done; just hand over cash and take the pistol. That was normal then.

[Deelayed]

Yes.
There is no requirement of registration to be able to sell.
They don't even check for that.
There are tons of pre-1991 handguns floating around CA which are not registered to their current owners because before 1991, you could buy from a private party without involving a firearms dealer.

The only thing that would get checked for is if the gun is stolen previously and not marked as recovered but that should come up during the 10 day wait.

*10 but possibly 30

[Deelayed]

I have several pistols transferred face to face 30 years ago. No paperwork done; just hand over cash and take the pistol. That was normal then.

Tell me more about these freedoms of yesteryear . It must have been a grand time . All that buying and selling to and fro . Walking talking foot loose and fancy free.....

[pohorsky]

If he doesn't need to get rid of it, but wants to legalize it, he could pawn dros it.

[morrcarr67]

If he doesn't need to get rid of it, but wants to legalize it, he could pawn dros it.

He wouldn't need to do that. He could just file the required form and pay $19 to the great state of California.

But there's no reason to register it. It was a legal transfer at the time and there's no law requiring anyone who may have firearms transferred this way to register them.

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[Deelayed]

He wouldn't need to do that. He could just file the required form and pay $19 to the great state of California.

But there's no reason to register it. It was a legal transfer at the time and there's no law requiring anyone who may have firearms transferred this way to register them.

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Is that the same situation for the death of a parent situation ?

[ojisan]

Tell me more about these freedoms of yesteryear . It must have been a grand time . All that buying and selling to and fro . Walking talking foot loose and fancy free.....

Seems like a long time ago a in a land far, far away...

I turned 21 in the late 1970s.
In California then there was a fifteen day wait back when buying a new gun from a dealer because all the paperwork went through the mail.
Used guns were cheaper and all we looked for was shooters back then because we wanted to try everything.
Rifles, shotguns and handguns were bought, sold, loaned and traded all the time...no paperwork, no delays, just cash and someone to vouch for you if you weren't in the immediate circle of friends...no stolen guns wanted.
Sometimes when buying through a newspaper ad the seller wanted your driver's license info but that was about it.

[ar15barrels]

Is that the same situation for the death of a parent situation ?

In the "I bought it 30+ years ago and want to register it" situation, you use a voluntary registration form.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/volreg.pdf

In the "my parents gave guns to me before they died" situation, you use an intrafamily transfer form.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf

In the "my parents died and left guns to me" situation, you use an act-of-law registration form.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf

[Deelayed]

Seems like a long time ago a in a land far, far away...

I turned 21 in the late 1970s.
In California then there was a fifteen day wait back when buying a new gun from a dealer because all the paperwork went through the mail.
Used guns were cheaper and all we looked for was shooters back then because we wanted to try everything.
Rifles, shotguns and handguns were bought, sold, loaned and traded all the time...no paperwork, no delays, just cash and someone to vouch for you if you weren't in the immediate circle of friends...no stolen guns wanted.
Sometimes when buying through a newspaper ad the seller wanted your driver's license info but that was about it.

Shangri-La excuse me a minute I think.my eyes are leaking . The thought of having missed such wonderments is touching my emotional side .. ..

[Deelayed]

In the "I bought it 30+ years ago and want to register it" situation, you use a voluntary registration form.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/volreg.pdf

In the "my parents gave guns to me before they died" situation, you use an intrafamily transfer form.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf

In the "my parents died and left guns to me" situation, you use an act-of-law registration form.
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...orms/oplaw.pdf

Is there any difference in process or do they l take the same amount of time and require the same documents .
The form seems to be the same for all situations