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  • #16
    pohorsky
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 836

    A lot of forums gave a minimum post for access to classifieds. Bern discussed many times here.

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    • #17
      CheapBloke
      Banned
      • Feb 2019
      • 3115

      OP, your a new account as well. You can start showing the way for donations before asking for them.

      Become a contributor on this forum to start!

      Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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      • #18
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Just ignore offers from brand new accounts. This site is already slowly losing traffic. Charging just to create an account will eventually kill off this site, since most normal people would never pay $2 just to create an account.

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        • #19
          BigPimping
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2010
          • 21459

          I really don't think that anyone except for contributors should be able to use the marketplace. I used to think it was acceptable for members with at least 500 posts. But I think it should be only contributors. That would eliminate nearly all of the scams and other funny business. I remember in the not so distant past that was not a problem here.
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          When pimping begins, friendship ends.

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          • #20
            Barang
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2013
            • 12765

            Originally posted by Garv
            Kes has said this will be a free site very convincingly in the past.

            Maybe suggest a "X" deposit to use the Marketplace, refundable after 1 year?

            That might fly.
            yes! like deposit when renting an apartment or house! pretty good idea.

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            • #21
              Preston-CLB
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2018
              • 3980

              I am a long-time member of the Large Format Photography forum. The site also has "For Sale/Trade" and WTB sub-forums.

              The requirement to post ads there is a person must be a member for at least 30 days. I think that is reasonable. A 30 day "wait period", and a minimum post count of, say, 50 posts in the CG sub-forums, not counting posts in the marketplace, would help eliminate the scam posts.

              Charging a mandatory fee would be self-defeating, in my opinion.

              If a person meets the 30 day wait, and is also a CG Contributor, they would be allowed to post in the marketplace. The 50 post criteria would be waived in this case.

              I'm just spitballing here. CG needs a robust marketplace that is as 'fear free' as we can make it.
              -P
              ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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              • #22
                Mr. Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 2512

                Kes and the CG team must have spoken about scammer deterrents. And for reasons unknown have elected to keep things as they are. I imagine they assume scammers will always find a way to someone who isn’t paying attention. Regardless, it is very annoying getting scam messages. A minimum post count would absolutely prevent some from scamming here. But it could hurt the site more than help. As many come here for their first time wanting to use the marketplace.
                https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                • #23
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12571

                  Originally posted by pohorsky
                  A lot of forums gave a minimum post for access to classifieds. Bern discussed many times here.
                  Look - I just made a post. 3 seconds.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #24
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12571

                    Originally posted by Preston-CLB
                    The requirement to post ads there is a person must be a member for at least 30 days. I think that is reasonable. A 30 day "wait period", and a minimum post count of, say, 50 posts in the CG sub-forums, not counting posts in the marketplace, would help eliminate the scam posts.

                    Charging a mandatory fee would be self-defeating, in my opinion.

                    If a person meets the 30 day wait, and is also a CG Contributor, they would be allowed to post in the marketplace. The 50 post criteria would be waived in this case.

                    I'm just spitballing here. CG needs a robust marketplace that is as 'fear free' as we can make it.
                    -P
                    Don't underestimate the patience of a scammer. If it's lucrative, they'll play along.

                    And I've never been afraid of foraging in the Calguns marketplace.

                    Self control, self discipline and a some healthy skepticism is all that is ever needed. For here or anywhere, really, whether now, or 40 years ago. Wisdom comes with exposure - or paying attention to history and the anecdotes of your elders, but nobody reads or listens anymore.

                    Con-men have been around since the dawn of time and will be here 'til the end. Get used to it.
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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #25
                      -hanko
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14174

                      In the past...

                      Originally posted by Garv
                      Kes has said this will be a free site very convincingly in the past.

                      Maybe suggest a "X" deposit to use the Marketplace, refundable after 1 year?

                      That might fly.
                      ...I can say very convincingly we had nowhere near the number of scammers, WTB or otherwise, that we have now.
                      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                      A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                      • #26
                        003
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3436

                        Only one why to buy/sell a gun. Face to face cash inside your local FFL.
                        Last edited by 003; 09-26-2021, 4:05 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Preston-CLB
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 3980

                          Gleam, I do agree with your statements. My suggestions were given in the spirit of making things more difficult for the scammers, with added benefit of having active members on our forum.

                          I appreciate your thoughts, sir.
                          -P
                          ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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                          • #28
                            OddJack
                            Member
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 182

                            You guys dont get it.

                            "they have figured out how to scam paypal"

                            No they havnt.

                            " Only way to buy gun is face to face"

                            Welcome to online market.

                            "Getting rid of scammer is getting rid of Biden voters"

                            You respect majority's vote. It's called democracy smart man.

                            Nobody said its going to stop scammers. It will reduce the number of scam PMs, no doubt about that.

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                            • #29
                              OddJack
                              Member
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 182

                              The PMs are not about selling you something that will never show up.

                              It's about getting your email address, phone # or any info they can get. Money is just icing on the cake.

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                              • #30
                                The Gleam
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 12571

                                Originally posted by OddJack
                                You guys dont get it.

                                "they have figured out how to scam paypal"

                                No they havnt.

                                " Only way to buy gun is face to face"

                                Welcome to online market.

                                "Getting rid of scammer is getting rid of Biden voters"

                                You respect majority's vote. It's called democracy smart man.

                                Nobody said its going to stop scammers. It will reduce the number of scam PMs, no doubt about that.
                                Umm - one can scam Paypal. Where have you been? Several ways to do it; it's a myriad of steps to create a fake account, but it can be done. If it's lucrative enough, it's worth the identity spoofing.

                                Let alone that Paypal will not honor or help you when you disclose that you were buying firearm related parts or items.

                                You had better brush up on your scam capability and savvy .

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                                Originally posted by Librarian
                                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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