These scammers are everywhere and multiplying !!

[Rocklander97]

[morrcarr67]

Everyone in the other thread about scammers.

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[Garv]

Are you using the red triangle so they can be purged?

They quickly set up new accounts, but at least they are slowed down.

Also, there is a thread to call them out to help pass the word.

[tonyxcom]

There wouldn't be scammers if there weren't so many victims.

The problem is people are allowing themselves to be scammed.

[remusrm]

obviously if most members are willing to send money in bit coin and zelle to obscure sites!

[Donny1]

Maybe some vetting before they can view the Marketplace forums.

[SharedShots]

Its almost like walking down the street in any big city.

Scammers aren't going away and for every action taken to prevent them from getting in they come up with a countermeasure.

In times past there was no internet marketplaces and people met people face to face or consigned with a dealer. The point was that it was people to people and while there were still scammers it wasn't quite so easy when you had to have the goods or the money to make the transaction.

Younger generation jumped into the virtual world of markets, fecebook, twitter and instagram and didn't think about where it was all headed. Well here it is and suddenly they don't like it so much when it comes to them.

People enjoy telling the entire planet they have a gun for sale or want to buy one and then can't figure out why someone halfway across the world wants to scam them?

Face it, everyone wants to have it their way, a world wide place to sell and buy but none of the risks that go along with it. They complain about the dealers but then want all the protections that come with going through a dealer without paying anything to get it.

None is this excuses scammers but at least understand that basically you asked for it. You want all the good with no bad.

[sfvshooter]

There wouldn't be scammers if there weren't so many victims.

The problem is people are allowing themselves to be scammed.

+1

If it seems too good to be true...

[-hanko]

+1

If it seems too good to be true...

A few here haven't ever heard that saying.

Imo, things won't change in the Marketplace until there's full time moderation. Sending/reporting will fix the issue if/when a moderator gets to it.

Moderation here is remarkably good imo. It would be better if mods were full time and got paid for moderating.

[The Gleam]

A few here haven't ever heard that saying.

Imo, things won't change in the Marketplace until there's full time moderation. Sending/reporting will fix the issue if/when a moderator gets to it.

Moderation here is remarkably good imo. It would be better if mods were full time and got paid for moderating.

Calguns, Kes, and its moderators do a GREAT job on this issue, a lot better than most other sites.

And of course it's good to report it in the scammer threads; like ammo, you can never have too much information.

However, what is really needed is some people to put their reward-sensitivity response in check, don some self-moderation, and curb one's impulsivity. People need to take some responsibility and quit relying on baby-sitters and nannies to get them out of a jam.

Fools leap where angels fear to tread. I said that to someone of the under 30 crowd recently and was surprised I had to explain to him just what it meant, nearly word for word, short of drawing a diagram about it.

Then again, a lot of these types are still dependent on mommy and daddy, so they expect they'll get that uterus-vest here to shield them here as well.

30 years of internet use and I've never been scammed. It's not hard.

[IVth Horseman]

Maybe some vetting before they can view the Marketplace forums.

[Mr. Blue]

There wouldn't be scammers if there weren't so many victims.

The problem is people are allowing themselves to be scammed.

Well, since the dawn of time there have been people taking advantage of not only suckers, but the trusting. A scam could involve a local PPT with seemingly perfect counterfeit bills. There are measures to avoid being scammed, I’m just saying its not possible for everyone to simply stop being victims.

This issue has come up a lot, and I’m sure the staff of Calguns has discussed it. Maybe the detriment of employing a minimum requirement to use the marketplace is too great? I for one am for it.

Side note, it is very fun and satisfying to waste the time of a scammer. Obviously we don’t always want to waste our own time doing so, but I do this from time to time. I like to think that I either stopped the scammer from stealing for that brief period, or potentially discouraged them from their dirtbag ways. Often times, they steal much more than money. Information. So baiting a scammer should be done with caution and care. Scammers are the scourge of society. Preying on older people typically.

[MrFeetZ]

Don't you think there are far more honest (but new) members that legitimately want to buy/sell in the marketplace than there are new members who are scammers?

Why should a newer member have to jump thru hoops to meet min reqmts to use the marketplace just because a member with tenure cant use logic when making a purchase?

[IVth Horseman]

Don't you think there are far more honest (but new) members that legitimately want to buy/sell in the marketplace than there are new members who are scammers?

Why should a newer member have to jump thru hoops to meet min reqmts to use the marketplace just because a member with tenure cant use logic when making a purchase?

[Garv]

I like the concept of somehow easily establishing themselves as legit but do not think post count will do it.
I am admittedly too low-tech to have a solution.

There are enough places to get 10 posts where they don't have to know anything about guns & less than 5 minutes later they can start scamming.