Flying the coop!

[ACfixer]

Why not just bring them with you and hit a gun show in a free state?

Did someone quote the federal law on selling

I don't think you understand how things work in free America. It's not your fault, you are behind the iron curtain as I was for over half a century. It's different over here and I am not talking about breaking any laws.

I’m sure no one would catch it. Just don’t want to deal with any issues that could cause me to delay my exit. I truly hate this state. We are treated like scum while the scum is treated like kings.

The fact that I even have to consider not being able to sell my property is a prime example.

Sell your five PPTs and bring the rest with you, happy to have you in the Volunteer state. Bring your money, bring your guns, you'll be happy you did.

[j1133s]

I agree with the posts that you shouldn't worry about being labeled a dealer because what you are doing is a one-time event. So, sell your guns PPT; this gets you maximum return.

I sell guns in batches. I think the most was about 30; and I routinely sell 5-10 guns in a year during my active shooting days.

[Oldmandan]

Let us know where your collection ends up. I’ve been hunting for a few specific pistols

[The Gleam]

In the other hand, I had a friend just do this. Auction house had told him they’d ‘probably’ get $250k for his collection, then presented him with a nice check for $63k and said “sometimes they just don’t work out”. He’s pretty devastated and wishes he had just done the laborious sales process on his end.

It would be interesting to hear of who the auction-house had been.

Not all auction-houses are the same; some certainly have a greater following, but more importantly, those that underperform for their consignors are often still doing in-person/live-auction only, and you must primarily be on location to "be in the know" of what's offered - and with no internet component or they are using a limited exposure, low mileage, low-traffic counterpart to their in-person live auctions.

And those of that "live-auction/on-site" style that do have an internet counterpart often fail to have good, high-resolution photos of the guns and/or piss-poor descriptions of each gun. So of course the results will skew much lower than those that offer a wider-based audience with an internet component that is well followed.

Then they may also tack on so many fees, auctioneer closing fees, and seller-premium, etc., that some bidders have started to stay clear of those style auctions which add large percentages to the bid prices when all said and done. Combine that with an auctioneer's offerings only being mediocre, that will surely see an eventual reduction in bidders that follow their auctions.

A recent "live" auction-house style auctioneer recently filed for bankruptcy, but has been one of the most prominent names in the live-auction business for guns for years. In my view, it's because they didn't keep up with the latest trends, revisions, and tech for running auctions, and their auction items became less interesting or attractive to what collectors would want to pursue.

Most anyone will know of whom I am referencing above; however, I can't understand how any gun auctioneer could be doing that poorly over the past few years, even during Trump's term in office when general new sales on guns declined (but sales on collectible guns continued to rise) - unless their methods for running auctions are so antiquated, their offered inventory grew less and less interesting, and/or kept their auction-vehicles so close to the vest that it limited bidder interest in their auctions - sop much so that their final auction prices grew anemic as a result of their bidder-traffic being so weak.

[orangeusa]

Little John's in Orange sells Uber rare, museum pieces all the way down to Glocks.

I wouldn't sell to LGS as they give you at most 50 cents on the dollar.

[ar15barrels]

You do get better deals though when there is no internet bidding...

https://www.inforuptcy.com/browse-filings/california-central-bankruptcy-court/8:20-bk-11026/bankruptcy-case-little-johns-antique-arms-inc

[ja308]

So I've made the very, very easy decision of moving out of this God forsaken pit of a state. I'm moving to Florida(seminole county) or Indiana(carmel). I've sold a few corporations that I own and will retain interest in a few others. Between selling my home in so cal and the corporations, plus the passive income from the companies I will still own a controlling interest in, I'll be able to live like a king. Between Hitler giving an extra 500 dollars to illegals, to forgiving tickets to low income people, I give up. The last straw was catching an employee take 1200 dollars and the police refusing to arrest him. At a certain point, you must come to grips with the FACT that this state doesn't care about my kind. You know, the kind that generates millions in tax revenue, doesn't break laws, pays his parking tickets etc.

So my question is this. I've been off CG for awhile and haven't paid attention to what new locks they have put around our testicles. I'm going to liquidate my collection and only keep 30 or 40 guns. I will probably sell 80 firearms. As I don't have to sell anything, and I don't have to be any place at any particular time. I'd prefer to ppt them so I can maximize my return. Do any of you see an issue with dumping 80 guns? I'm not going to be price gouging at all, so I think they will sell fairly quickly.

Good luck and enjoy two of my most favorite states. Indiana enjoys private party transfers at gun shows between residents.
I would be inclined to sell there and meet some nice people in the process !

[ja308]

OP, the problem with doing PPT's right now is finding FFL's who will do PPT's.

Between finding a FFL to do a PPT and the possible wait-times at a FFL to conduct the PPT, it's made me reluctant to sell firearms I'd very much like to sell. I factor in my "FFL PPT time (including drive time)" into whether its worth selling a firearm. I've got aging safe queens I'd like to sell since I need safe space.

If there was a local FFL who did PPT's with low-wait times, I'd do that... Doesn't hurt (or cost $) to try...

Indiana doesn't require an FFL to do a sale. You need to be a state resident and check the buyer is a state resident and you exchange the gun for money, check or trade.

That said every responsible seller sells to another gun culture person of high character.
No one wants to be visited or have a sold gun end up being used in crime.

Another common sense Indiana protocol is to auction off guns taken from criminals to enhance police budgets and get guns into the hands of law abiding citizens.
Indiana has lots more going for it, although the climate isn't great, its survivable and fun place to visit and live!
Yeah its a republican state !

[MuayThaiJJ]

Consign all of them and/or contact DOJ and tell them you wish to do this "one-time" liquidation. I have heard from FFLs that they are lenient if you acknowledge the rarity of this situation and ask for approval to do so.

[Robert1234]

Consign all of them and/or contact DOJ and tell them you wish to do this "one-time" liquidation. I have heard from FFLs that they are lenient if you acknowledge the rarity of this situation and ask for approval to do so.

Of all the shockingly bad ideas, this one's at the top of the list.

Unless there's some requirement (and even then, I'm leery of giving the California DOJ a head's-up of anything I'm doing), don't notify that bunch of degenerate morons of anything.

FFS, they have a history of deceit, lying, and generally bad behavior, why would you give them any info you didn't have to?

[MuayThaiJJ]

Of all the shockingly bad ideas, this one's at the top of the list.

Unless there's some requirement (and even then, I'm leery of giving the California DOJ a head's-up of anything I'm doing), don't notify that bunch of degenerate morons of anything.

FFS, they have a history of deceit, lying, and generally bad behavior, why would you give them any info you didn't have to?

There are multiple threads on here asking the same advice, people--like widows, that need to liquidate and go over the 50. My FFL had to do this and it was advised the seller contact DOJ to inform them of this one-time occurrence. They are looking for habitual PPTs way over the limit.

OP, contact a few local FFLs. Each of them has a DOJ rep and can advise.

[Robert1234]

There are multiple threads on here asking the same advice, people--like widows, that need to liquidate and go over the 50. My FFL had to do this and it was advised the seller contact DOJ to inform them of this one-time occurrence. They are looking for habitual PPTs way over the limit.

OP, contact a few local FFLs. Each of them has a DOJ rep and can advise.

Didn't mean for my response to seem confrontational, apologies if it came across that way.

That said, I stand by my statement; I wouldn't be notifying CA DOJ of anything I'm doing, especially something where notifying them is not a legal requirement.

They have a well documented history of discrimination and bad acting against gun owners.

And sorry, I don't trust most dealers, they're looking out for themselves, and usually know less than most on this forum with regards to California's gun laws. How many FFLs wouldn't sell off list lowers for years because they were afraid of, something?

Laws are easily searchable these days, know what's required, and do exactly that when you sell your guns.

Before leaving that state, I sold guns as I felt necessary, sometimes more than five transactions per year, sometimes less. I never considered myself a dealer, and nothing in my actions could be construed as me dealing guns, so I wasn't worried about it.

Something about the "uber-compliance" some on this forum recommend makes me scratch my head.

I comply with the law, no more, no less. I make no efforts to go beyond compliance; why give the authorities in that state any ideas? If the law says "this and this" are required, that is exactly what I do. Not "this, this, this, and this", so I can be more compliant than necessary.

[MuayThaiJJ]

Didn't mean for my response to seem confrontational, apologies if it came across that way.

That said, I stand by my statement; I wouldn't be notifying CA DOJ of anything I'm doing, especially something where notifying them is not a legal requirement.

They have a well documented history of discrimination and bad acting against gun owners.

And sorry, I don't trust most dealers, they're looking out for themselves, and usually know less than most on this forum with regards to California's gun laws. How many FFLs wouldn't sell off list lowers for years because they were afraid of, something?

Laws are easily searchable these days, know what's required, and do exactly that when you sell your guns.

Before leaving that state, I sold guns as I felt necessary, sometimes more than five transactions per year, sometimes less. I never considered myself a dealer, and nothing in my actions could be construed as me dealing guns, so I wasn't worried about it.

Something about the "uber-compliance" some on this forum recommend makes me scratch my head.

I comply with the law, no more, no less. I make no efforts to go beyond compliance; why give the authorities in that state any ideas? If the law says "this and this" are required, that is exactly what I do. Not "this, this, this, and this", so I can be more compliant than necessary.

[xrMike]

Where's the list??? We need to see the list!!!

[Franklincollector]

Partial list is complete, i'm doing my due diligence currently. Will post later.

Indiana is amazing and RED, the cold sucks, but 4 seasons is great. And Carmel, zionstown are have the best schools and are a great place to start another business.