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  • keepitlow
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 385

    I'm thinking we are doing self-defense ammo wrong

    I read on one of these forums a criminal was shot a number of times before going down. I mean a huge amount of times. One shot was said to stop an inch or more from the heart.

    I'm thinking we should be using maximum penetration bullets and forget about all the expansion BS. I've used poly or Teflon coated 9mm. Nothing else I tried could compare to the penetration.

    Now, I didn't use other poly coated bullets. The rest were regular ball or various expansion bullets. But their penetration was 25% to 60% of the coated 9mm.

    The self-defense ammo should be going through the heart, shattering the spine and through the skull. No failure to penetrate BS. The bullets should be coming right out the other side. You shoot in one ear and it should come out the other.
    Last edited by keepitlow; 02-28-2021, 3:58 PM.
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    Snoopy47
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3883

    Is this a troll post? Through and through ammo for personal defense?
    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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    • #3
      billped
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2504

      Poorly thought out.
      Bill

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      • #4
        CWL
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2009
        • 1488

        OK.
        Vae Victis

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        • #5
          tabascoz28
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 3364

          That's why some counties make you take 8 hours of class for CCW.

          It's really about shot placement, and good luck with that once your adrenalin kicks in. And again, in CCW class you learn to aim at the body, if you miss you don't get to pass. Now this post will be used against you when you try to defend yourself when you shoot at shadows in the middle of the night, miss and shoot the neighbor's dog, or worse....

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          • #6
            DDM4556
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2014
            • 2601

            What about the people behind the target?
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            • #7
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12530

              i'm just gonna use slugs and buckshot when at home.

              ain't no one coming back up when they get hit with a few slugs or buckshot in them.
              Originally posted by leelaw
              Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
              Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
              Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
              Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
              Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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              • #8
                plumbum
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2010
                • 5394

                You do you Bro!
                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                • #9
                  GeeBee49
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 1981

                  As far as stopping power goes it doesn't matter if someone uses over penetrating ammo or expanding hollow point ammo. What matters is what the bullet hits when it enters the body. I once knew a guy who was shot six times in the back with an AK47 and lived.
                  I believe that using over penetrating ammo for self defense is irresponsible and, again, it will do no good unless it hits something critical. An immediate loss of blood pressure is what will stop an adversary.
                  If someone is concerned about stopping power I suggest they go for the headshot.

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12438

                    That's it - I'm switching from Glocks to rapiers.
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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44093

                      Who uses 9mm for SD? Anything less than a 50BMG is stupid to use. Personally, I prefer canister rounds out of a 10lb Parrott rifle for SD.
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                      • #12
                        Bigtwin
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 2639

                        CSA....I like your style!
                        NRA MEMBER

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                        • #13
                          tabascoz28
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 3364

                          Originally posted by The Gleam
                          That's it - I'm switching from Glocks to rapiers.
                          And whey they finally make a light saber you're going to have to upgrade. It has the added bonus to deflect bullets! The only questions is, which style and what color....

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                          Last edited by tabascoz28; 02-28-2021, 5:16 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Milsurp1
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 3091

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                            • #15
                              osis32
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5912

                              You can ritchey drop blood pressure, kill brain function or sever the spine. Good luck trying to do that on purpose. Larger wound channels are your best bet for the easiest option. Lowering ther blood pressure.
                              Just a libertarian guy in a Leftist Authoritarian state.

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