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  • #31
    LEAD LAUNCHER
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1938

    Originally posted by Grumpyoldretiredcop
    All I see is undocumented panic over an Ammoland video that apparently has been withdrawn. For Heaven's sake, stop spreading FUD! We have enough issues to deal with as is.


    This note is at the top of Ammoland's website on the matter:
    This^^^^

    Clickbait BS

    I’m not biting.

    Oh for sure ATF and Biden are working on restricting our rights.

    I have no doubt of that.

    But I’m not going to panic every time some video or press release comes out from some random company,guy or website.

    Reminds me...maybe on Friday I’ll bring out the 300 blackout pistol with SB pdw brace. It’s been a while since I’ve shot it.

    Oh... and FATF and FCADOJ too.
    Last edited by LEAD LAUNCHER; 11-25-2020, 3:14 PM.

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    • #32
      HKAllTheThings
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2020
      • 1313

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      • #33
        sfvshooter
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 1200

        Fake news?
        Too many rifles, not enough time...

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        • #34
          SkyHawk
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          • Sep 2012
          • 23528

          SB Tactical responds - also the Youtuber sort of walks back some of his conclusions from yesterday and sounds a little less panicked



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          • #35
            Mac Attack
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            • Apr 2008
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            • #36
              kelvin232
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 827

              Save yourself a click.
              Braces with letters are legal.
              Braces without letters are undetermined.
              Undetermined does not equal illegal. Just can't be advertised as determined legal.
              /thread

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              • #37
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19789

                Originally posted by beanz2
                Before we all go out and throw out the baby with the bath water, look at this from Gearhead Works:

                Theirs are approved.

                I'm also requesting SB Tactical to send me copies of their ATF approval letters:
                ATF Letters for download. ATF opinions are subject to change and evaluations are fact-specific.


                I haven't looked at the Shockwave, etc.
                IIRC Shockwave includes a copy of their letter when you buy the brace.

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                • #38
                  The Gleam
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12983

                  Nothing valid, just what-if gaming internet rumors 'gone virile' that I'm half inclined to believe are actually being propelled by Anti-2nd Amendment shills convincing genuine but easily duped and gullible gun owners it's a thing.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #39
                    sigstroker
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19789

                    The skank Acting Director wasn't in charge a few years ago when the approval letters went out. Now she's buddying up with Biden and conspiring to pull this sh*t. Trump needs to fire her NOW. Biden can hire her back if he wins.

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                    • #40
                      SISKIN
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 872

                      What does Chuck. say....

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                      • #41
                        The Good Doc
                        Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 221

                        I know the ATF sent a cease and desist order to Q Firearms regarding their "honey badger" pistol, but that was all I heard. I just picked up a pistol lower at PSA on Tuesday and they didn't say anything to me. It was weird, because I gave them my CCW and they still made me fill out a 4473. Here, you don't have to 4473 a firearm with your CCW, but I didn't ask. It was busy and I had to get to a dinner with family.

                        My own personal opinion is that this if FUDD, but who knows, I don't work at the ATF. I think if this were true, there would be a run on pistol lowers and PSA would be taxing more than the $50 a pop they put on all their lowers after joey B was "confirmed" 3 weeks ago...

                        If this is true, I need to pull the trigger and get the AR 10mm pistol I have had my eye on.
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                        • #42
                          OCEquestrian
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 6899

                          All you AR pistol brace guys KNOW that the Biden BATF will be outlawing all these things as SBR work around's right? They will be "banned" not restricted/grandfathered as the brace itself is not a 2A protected firearm. Sell them all now while you can and save the whining later on.
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                          • #43
                            AregularGuy
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                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2792

                            Originally posted by edgerly779
                            Yeah Vinnie since he is texas that would rub some sensitive Ca person raw I guess.
                            What would be wrong with leaving order as is and removing brace at some future time as needed?
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                            • #44
                              The Good Doc
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                              • May 2013
                              • 221

                              Originally posted by AregularGuy
                              What would be wrong with leaving order as is and removing brace at some future time as needed?
                              True that. The braces are only about $15-$30 for a shockwave.
                              Last edited by The Good Doc; 11-26-2020, 1:10 PM.
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                              • #45
                                beanz2
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12032

                                Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                                All you AR pistol brace guys KNOW that the Biden BATF will be outlawing all these things as SBR work around's right? They will be "banned" not restricted/grandfathered as the brace itself is not a 2A protected firearm. Sell them all now while you can and save the whining later on.
                                This is very likely, but removing the brace off the buffer tube should suffice. Worse come to worst, they'll have to get an ATF-approved SB15. Yes, it helicopters and it looks ugly but it works (as intended)

                                I'm glad I can buy stamps for mine. I just pretend I have to buy an expensive, $200 arm brace for each one of them. Just for fun and giggles, I might leave one gun with an unapproved SB Tactical brace on, while quietly carrying the stamp wherever I go.

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