Would you shoot through your windshield?

[OCEquestrian]

He's watched too many OIS that has LEOs shooting through their windshields. I'm sure there's bullet deflection, so you can't count on your rounds going point of aim. But you still have to account for them after they leave your weapon. Seems like a terrible idea to me, unless last resort, in a true life or death situation.

You need to aim at the neck/head to get a center mass shoot when shooting OUT of a windshield at a target 6 feet in front of your car. The point of aim/impact effect is magnified as the target is farther from the windshield. Shooting into a windshield there is no real change in point of aim because the targets in the car are not far enough from the windshield for the geometry to cause a significant change in point of aim/impact. Considering the amount of time we all spend in cars, any CCW holder should take at least one good vehicle tactics class where they actually shoot out of vehicles, into vehicles and thru windshields.

If you do train hooting thru a windshield from inside a car, make sure you are wearing eye and breath protection (n95 mask) to protect against atomized glass particles in your eyes and lungs.

[checkenbach]

Watching too many movies can get you killed...

[.sam.]

Just for fun to watch:

[splithoof]

You need to aim at the neck/head to get a center mass shoot when shooting OUT of a windshield at a target 6 feet in front of your car. The point of aim/impact effect is magnified as the target is farther from the windshield. Shooting into a windshield there is no real change in point of aim because the targets in the car are not far enough from the windshield for the geometry to cause a significant change in point of aim/impact. Considering the amount of time we all spend in cars, any CCW holder should take at least one good vehicle tactics class where they actually shoot out of vehicles, into vehicles and thru windshields.

If you do train hooting thru a windshield from inside a car, make sure you are wearing eye and breath protection (n95 mask) to protect against atomized glass particles in your eyes and lungs.

OCE,
A dozen years ago, we did a carefully planned practical pistol event wherein four junkyard windshields were secured at a standard height, and chairs were fixed for mimicking the correct angle/height relationship to the glass. Targets were placed at “hood length + six feet”, and participants used sidearms and rifles to see what actually happened.
After numerous tests, we concluded that shooting FROM the inside of a vehicle was much less reliable than shooting INTO a vehicle; if given a choice, carbines of all sorts did MUCH better in all cases than sidearms.
Take away from that experiment: wait until the target vehicle comes to a stop or is moving slowly, then hose it from the side.

[HKAllTheThings]

You need to aim at the neck/head to get a center mass shoot when shooting OUT of a windshield at a target 6 feet in front of your car. The point of aim/impact effect is magnified as the target is farther from the windshield. Shooting into a windshield there is no real change in point of aim because the targets in the car are not far enough from the windshield for the geometry to cause a significant change in point of aim/impact. Considering the amount of time we all spend in cars, any CCW holder should take at least one good vehicle tactics class where they actually shoot out of vehicles, into vehicles and thru windshields.

If you do train hooting thru a windshield from inside a car, make sure you are wearing eye and breath protection (n95 mask) to protect against atomized glass particles in your eyes and lungs.

Holdover is a lot of think about during a complex attack so it's one of the reasons why P for plenty is taught.

[OCEquestrian]

Holdover is a lot of think about during a complex attack so it's one of the reasons why P for plenty is taught.

No fair using that carbine you had in your back pocket when you needed it.. lol With a handgun, P for plenty is good.. quickly create a hole in the windshield and shoot thru it... that is what I was taught.

[HKAllTheThings]

No fair using that carbine you had in your back pocket when you needed it.. lol With a handgun, P for plenty is good.. quickly create a hole in the windshield and shoot thru it... that is what I was taught.

Yes, it's one of the reasons why what is taught to the military running convoys may not necessarily translate directly to EDC running to WalMart.

[splithoof]

Then of course there is always the preferred method: down shift, apply throttle, steer to target.

[The War Wagon]

Would you shoot through your windshield?

LIKE this dumb@$$?


NO.

[anthracite]

Just for fun to watch:

Holdover is a lot of think about during a complex attack so it's one of the reasons why P for plenty is taught.

Thank you for posting those videos, interesting perspectives.

[SCVlongstroke]

I hang my gat out the window

[MarikinaMan]

In some situations, maybe.

[OCEquestrian]

Then of course there is always the preferred method: down shift, apply throttle, steer to target.

Amazing how many people, including police officers, forget that they're driving a 4500 pound, semi armored weapon all the time.

[HKAllTheThings]

Amazing how many people, including police officers, forget that they're driving a 4500 pound, semi armored weapon all the time.

Given how many times this has happened in the last few months, I think some remembered.

[tuolumnejim]

Not my first choice.