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  • #31
    9Cal_OC
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2019
    • 6696

    Originally posted by faterikcartman
    Price too high for you? Don't buy it.
    Price too high for everyone? The seller will figure it out without your help.
    This, plain and simple.
    Freedom isn't free...

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    • #32
      Like2fly
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 563

      Love Thomas Sowell. I have posted before that if you are a conservative, a libertarian, or just a wee bit right leaning and you don’t know who he is then you are not well read or informed. Unfourtuanately I believe he is in his 80’s now, but he has a significant body of work that you can search online for or see in YouTube clips or find on Townhall.com (which I consider the best website that aggregates most conservative or right leaning commentators and commentary.

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      • #33
        faterikcartman
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 1404

        90! And a national treasure.

        I love seeing white liberal trolls in the Breitbart comments calling the conservatarians there racist and arguing we only revere blacks like Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, Candace Owens, etc. because they agree with us. Which makes my head spin because it confirms skin colour doesn't matter to 99.9% or our side.
        I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

        Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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        • #34
          Citadelgrad87
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2007
          • 16956

          Originally posted by caliberetta
          All you idiots that complain about the prices people selling their items for should remember that people's rights to free enterprise are not much different than our rights to have guns to begin with.

          When you interfere with that, you are no different from the anti-guns whining about how guns are dangerous.

          Some people have had to include "no thread crapping" on their ads to avoid the response of losers who have no restraint but interfere with his right to free enterprise.

          I recently sold a Glock for twice what I bought it for.

          I didn't force anyone to pay that. If anyone has a problem with that .... go eat dirt. The Market will go in the direction it wants to go, and nobody's whining will ever stop it.
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          Two problems.

          First, the obvious hypocrisy. You demand freedom to do what you want, but how DARE anyone simply say something about your actions. Nobody is calling for regulations, they are just talking. And that makes you uncomfortable, as it should. Despite your insults for others, being called on what you are doing stings, and so you hate that it happens.

          Two, it's NOT a free market. It's a ridiculously controlled, unfree market.

          EDIT: TO the extent that this thread is calling for changes to the marketplace rules, I am fine with the rules as they are. This is not a for sale thread, and people are just talking. It seems the angry people flinging spittle about how what they are doing is acceptable, and anyone else is a commie, are the ones who are emotional.
          Last edited by Citadelgrad87; 07-27-2020, 11:32 AM.
          Originally posted by tony270
          It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
          Originally posted by repubconserv
          Print it out and frame it for all I care
          Originally posted by el chivo
          I don't need to think at all..
          Originally posted by pjsig
          You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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          • #35
            eternoplacer
            Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 330

            Originally posted by ARDude
            So how would I list my rare, hard to find, made in 1974 vintage, mint condition Walther P38K? If I were to offer it for sale?
            List it as what it is, Walther P38K,in your case, the suffix "K" would be enough to atract a SERIUS buyer that would probably pay what ever you wanted for that Gun.
            Other people would never know the meaning of that K, K=Kurts=Short.

            By the way, Nice Pistol, very desirable.

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            • #36
              _TomT_
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 3354

              The marketplace has turned into such crap in 2020 that I try my best to avoid buying guns from here. This is how bad it has gotten. And its not even the abundance of thread crapping or some idiot making a troll WTS thread.

              There is just too much useless chatter going on in the Marketplace as of late. I don't want to read all of that crap, this goes especially for thread crapping as well as:

              -great gun GLWS
              -I WILL TAKE IT!!!!
              -hey call/text me!
              -I wish you were closer.
              -pictures?!

              All of this crap can be done via PM. All I want to see in the Marketplace is:

              -detailed opening post
              -bumps
              -SPF/SOLD

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              • #37
                elSquid
                In Memoriam
                • Aug 2007
                • 11844

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                • #38
                  hunterb
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3796

                  Originally posted by faterikcartman
                  I want to thank the OP for reminding me that just because someone participates on a shooting forum it doesn't mean they're not a commie.

                  I recommend all the complaining price-Karens read Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics. It is written in easy to understand language with no graphs or difficult math.

                  You will learn how prices can reflect scarcity. And help guide the invisible hand of the free market to operate infinitely more efficiently than a command and control economy.

                  Moreover, someone above mentioned pricing above what 99% of buyers would pay. But if a seller has but one copy of that gun to sell of what interest are the 99% of buyers who will not buy that gun at that price? His only concern is the 1% that will.

                  Also, as pointed out above, if the price is so high no one will buy the market will inform him with failure. If he cannot connect the dots he may post a thread in the appropriate sub-forum asking why no one has bought his gun. At that time you can swoop in as a price crusader and gleefully suggest he lower the price until he finds a buyer. Or find a new market.

                  It is lamentable that no one is going to take me up on my suggestion regarding Dr Sowell. The interplay of supply, demand, and pricing, is complex. So complex that efficient balance of the system has eluded those who aspire to be master planners.

                  But suffice to say -- I am pecking this out on my phone after all -- new buyers complaining about high prices might not be well served were prices kept artificially low. A lower price might not mean they get their first gun at a low price. It may mean they get no gun at all.

                  For example, when supplies are low and demand is high -- and people our looking at our civil war going hot and panic buying -- people with 100 guns may be interested in buying another when prices are low. But may be less interested if the price were really high. The person in the inner city with no gun at all may be so motivated to protect their family that they are grateful for the opportunity to buy a Glock at two, or even three, times its MSRP. But if the price were not high they might never have the opportunity if someone less desperate buys it first.

                  Dr Sowell explains that lefty laws to forbid high interest rate "paycheck loans" does not mean that poor people will have access to low priced credit. It means they will have no access to credit at all. And trusts that a single mom with three kids about to be evicted for not paying rent knows better whether she needs an emergency loan than some do-gooder who can't bear the thought of someone paying a high interest rate.

                  I'm reminded of people who lobby to get television shows cancelled. Apparently they cannot muster the will to change the channel. Or cannot countenance someone having different tastes and priorities.

                  You complainers -- and there's a new thread every other week -- need to learn to change the channel. And mind your own business. Stop interfering with another person's affairs and efforts to make money. No wonder the Marxists are getting so much support. I don't hate you. I blame the schools and teachers. Mostly.

                  But would you thread crappers appreciate someone showing up to your place of business explaining to your boss and coworkers how you're paid too much and how you know where they can find someone who will do the same job for less? Please don't lie. You would be starting a new thread complaining about it.

                  Price too high for you? Don't buy it.
                  Price too high for everyone? The seller will figure it out without your help.
                  Well said! This needs to be copied and pasted into every Commie Karen thread complaining about marketplace prices.

                  Originally posted by johnthomas
                  ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                  • #39
                    Nate
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1335

                    Originally posted by TopshotIDF
                    When I see a listing for a gun for sale and the person who posted it has to write in his post "no Thread Crapping" isn't that the first sign something is wrong with your listing?

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                    • #40
                      caliberetta
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2751

                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      Two problems.

                      First, the obvious hypocrisy. You demand freedom to do what you want, but how DARE anyone simply say something about your actions. Nobody is calling for regulations, they are just talking. And that makes you uncomfortable, as it should. Despite your insults for others, being called on what you are doing stings, and so you hate that it happens.

                      Two, it's NOT a free market. It's a ridiculously controlled, unfree market.

                      EDIT: TO the extent that this thread is calling for changes to the marketplace rules, I am fine with the rules as they are. This is not a for sale thread, and people are just talking. It seems the angry people flinging spittle about how what they are doing is acceptable, and anyone else is a commie, are the ones who are emotional.

                      You attorneys are all the same - you argue the other point by reflex, knowing full well you can develop a "seemingly" plausible argument to support just about any belief. It's always easy to accuse anyone of hypocrisy, when you cloud the original and more important point with a bunch of presumptions and psychological nonsense.

                      The message is simple - the marketplace is the ultimate arbiter of prices - no help needed, especially from Trolls. Prices will go in the direction and extent to which they want to go. An amazing thing is happening in the marketplace right now. WATCH and LEARN.

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                      Last edited by caliberetta; 07-27-2020, 3:05 PM.

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                      • #41
                        caliberetta
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 2751

                        Originally posted by -hanko
                        ar15.com and the FALFiles.com are far "better" than the Marketplace here.

                        Reason? Simple...rules are enforced in both, particularly in the area of thread crapping.

                        Here, there's a group of Kevins and Karens attempting to save the rest of the forum from paying too much.

                        I'm not sure why that is, but it ruins the Marketplace here for all.

                        I agree Calguns Marketplace could use a little better technology that would help keep the marketplace more orderly, seen it on ARF and other forums, but I guess we are lucky the admins do a good job manually of keeping any disorder minimized.

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                        • #42
                          Citadelgrad87
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16956

                          Originally posted by caliberetta
                          You attorneys are all the same - you argue the other point by reflex, knowing full well you can develop a "seemingly" plausible argument to support just about any belief. It's always easy to accuse anyone of hypocrisy, when you cloud the original and more important point with a bunch of presumptions and psychological nonsense.

                          The message is simple - the marketplace is the ultimate arbiter of prices - no help needed, especially from Trolls. Prices will go in the direction and extent to which they want to go. An amazing thing is happening in the marketplace right now. WATCH and LEARN.

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                          Quite the bloviation when you decided to lead with "You attorneys are all the same", a statement that if made against many other groups would get you banned. Pretty weak.

                          You countered nothing I wrote. Not a syllable. You are a hypocrite, because you demand to be able to charge whatever you want, but you want no one else to be able to comment, even on a thread that is about this issue.

                          I know how the market works. Maybe you could point me to the economic treatise that says that capitalism is so fragile, discussion of prices cannot be permitted.
                          Originally posted by tony270
                          It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                          Originally posted by repubconserv
                          Print it out and frame it for all I care
                          Originally posted by el chivo
                          I don't need to think at all..
                          Originally posted by pjsig
                          You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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                          • #43
                            Mr. Beretta
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 6614

                            At my age, I appreciate a good crap. Hopefully everyday.

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                            • #44
                              tbc
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 5955

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                              • #45
                                Barang
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 13171

                                Originally posted by Mr. Beretta
                                At my age, I appreciate a good crap. Hopefully everyday.
                                oh no! he's thread crapping. let me finish eating my prunes before reporting you!

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