Home defense question

[tigerpan]

[Kokopelli]

Bird shot will kill a human dead within 15 yards. The pattern is about the size of your hand. The idea that a round with that much power isn’t lethal with small shot is crazy. Remember at close range the pattern hasn’t opened up. So basically it is a slug of shot. At 30 yards it is going to hurt like hell. I give a 50/50 chance of dying depending on hit location. Unlike most of these internet guys pushing bull**** I actually shoot almost everyday and have killed a lot of stuff with a shotgun. Also Don’t forget bird shot comes in all size and 3-1/2 shells.

Just re-read all previous posts. No one said bird shot wasn’t lethal. Larger bird shot being the better choice. Paul Harrell has a YT video on that.

At close range, you still need to aim a shotgun, whether it’s loaded with bird or buck. At 21 feet, not yards, 7 1/2 bird, #4 buck or 00 buck, the pattern will be closer to the size of your fist.

I think it boils down to this. Will the armed bad guy in your home still have time to stab, club or shoot you before you Can fire a second round because your first round did not completely incapacitate them?

Just imagine what penetration would be like if these blocks of gel were wearing a leather jacket....

[divingin]

I'm just curious as to how someone could think that the force of a round going into the chamber is significantly different from FMJ to hollow point rounds.

That's not the concern. It's getting hung up as it feeds that's the issue.

[kmas]

Quality JHPs are fine

Seriously, even regular ammo sends the perp running (or falling) - better he bleeds outside, not on your spouse's carpet.