Home defense question

[PachecoFTW]

I thought jhp clog and act as a fmj?
Ive seen many videos and threads that even jeans and parkas can clog a jhp which is why theres the flex tip and what not.

[003]

The first round is in the chamber, why would you want it not to be a hollow point?

[AlHO1966]

PRACTICING with HD rounds (JHP's) is important, even if it's ALSO expensive.

I wouldn't be doing mag dumps with 'em all day long, but a magful maybe every 3rd or 4th range trip ain't a bad idea. And any NEW ammo you pick up, try a magful ASAP, and see how they do.

And if all else fails, a good throat job from a competent 'smitty won't hurt either.

This^

Load your HD gun with what you know it will run reliably.

If you have only ran ball ammo through your gun for its entire life and every time you get home you are putting some flavor of hollow point in the mag you are doing yourself no favors.

A lot of people like to talk about over penetration and while that is a great concern, in a real life and death situation the bigger concern should be if the gun will function. If a person is about to kill you and the gun doesnt go bang your last worry wont be about over penetration of some drywall.

Practice with the JHP's if thats what your going to use.

[newbutold]

Exactly

[P5Ret]

I'm just curious as to how someone could think that the force of a round going into the chamber is significantly different from FMJ to hollow point rounds. The recoil spring is what will determine that force, it should be fairly consistent no matter what ammo type is used.

The gun can not recoil beyond the what the spring will allow. It may go slightly less, but that is a factor of the powder charge, and energy produced not the bullet design.

[Barang]

i tested my hd gun with couple mags full of hp (hst, golden saber, critical defense etc.) and see what works best. all of them did so now i know what brands work reliably in my hd.

[EuroDriver]

+1

I would never, ever keep FMJ rounds in a HD weapon. If you ever found yourself in need of firing it, you don't want the consciousness of guilt - or the legal implications of maiming/killing someone in another room with the charge of knowing or that you should have known the over-penetrating propensities of a FMJ round.

[Featureless]

Only matters if you live in an apartment.

[tdp113530]

Training! Tap, roll, rack if round doesn't fire. Or if youre that concerned then get a revolver.

This. You will only rise to the level of your training under stress.

[Featureless]

+1

I would never, ever keep FMJ rounds in a HD weapon. If you ever found yourself in need of firing it, you don't want the consciousness of guilt - or the legal implications of maiming/killing someone in another room with the charge of knowing or that you should have known the over-penetrating propensities of a FMJ round.

Well, if it's 'in another room' with the 'legal implications' sounds like you're an apartment dweller. Better confront at the front door. How about .22 lr? Deadly.

[-hanko]

+1

I would never, ever keep FMJ rounds in a HD weapon. If you ever found yourself in need of firing it, you don't want the consciousness of guilt - or the legal implications of maiming/killing someone in another room with the charge of knowing or that you should have known the over-penetrating propensities of a FMJ round.

Has there ever been a case of over penetration harming someone in another room or outside the apartment or house?

[EuroDriver]

Well, if it's 'in another room' with the 'legal implications' sounds like you're an apartment dweller. Better confront at the front door. How about .22 lr? Deadly.

I don't live in an apartment - not sure how you conjured that conclusion but I don't think the walls in my house or my neighbors' can be much thicker or sturdier than apartment walls. Another room can be my wife or my child, a guest or unlikely but possibly a next door neighbor. In a HD situation, I doubt an intruder will let me call dibbs on confronting at the front door. Would be nice, but highly unlikely. I'm fine with my 9mm and .45 at home, I just won't use FMJ. Thanks for the .22lr suggestion though - very penetrating but not very effective at stopping power. I just use it for range practice.

Has there ever been a case of over penetration harming someone in another room or outside the apartment or house?

I've heard but don't have first-hand knowledge of any case in specific. But I definitely don't want to be the guinea pig in my neighborhood.

[Sailormilan2]

What I learned years ago is to have the round in the chamber being the JHP, and the rest of the rounds in the mag FMJ. That assures feeding if you have any worries about JHPs not feed properly.

[Maulerrr]

All our HD handguns have JHP rounds. But we've fed plenty of hollow point and "conventional" ball/fmj through them as well. They're well broken in by this point that I feel comfortable shooting pretty much anything through them.

I use JHP rounds to try minimizing over penetration. I think the odds of accidental overpenetration and hitting someone in my home or neighboring home is extremely slim. But I'd be heartbroken if I shot my loved one or my dog or something on accident.

[norcal77]

It really shouldn’t matter what’s in the mag, it all really depends on how much you trust your pistol.

I love my 1911s but they are older and finicky w anything other than ball ammo, because of that they are relegated to being range toys.

My HKs on the other hand I trust w my life. One time I loaded up 2 mags w about 15 types/brands of ammo I had accumulated to test out how much I can rely on it. It was a USP45, not a single hiccup.