Why do people do this? Pet peeve...

[rodralig]

RSO's and range owners do not need to be jerks either. the goal is to turn your shooters in to a well trained effective shooter who will not cause a tragedy in public if they have to use deadly force as a last resort. but that is my personal opinion.

The primary responsibility of the range owner, the CRSO and RSO is to ensure the safety and well-being of the patrons on the range.

The responsibility of, to quote you - turning shooters into a well-trained shooter who will not cause a tragedy in public if they have to use deadly force as a last resort falls on an instructor, preferably certified/trained. And ultimately to the shooter himself/herself...

If the range owner, CRSO and RSO are also instructors - good. They have more leeway on how to treat the situation, as per range policy/guidelines (range rules, range SOPs, etc.).

If NOT and they find a patron being unsafe, they are well in their rights to eject the customer. Better an unhappy customer rather than an incident at the range.

A quick note about ranges with NRA trained RSO. The Rangemaster is in charge and then the RSO.

Not the CRSO?


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[B2D]

He was trying to impress them for the poon.

I mean, that much is/was obvious.

I suspect he might have come closer to accomplishing his goal if he learned to at least make something resembling a group beforehand and not hitting the equipment first.

But that's just me.

[B2D]

So I had a funny thing happen last week.

I was at an indoor range, as I walked to my lane and set my bag down a guy walked up and asked me if I new anything about guns. I told him I know a bit and ask him what was wrong. He told me that his gun just stopped working and he couldn’t figure out what was wrong with it.
He told me it wouldn’t shoot and it won’t load anymore ammo. He had tried removing the magazine and putting it back in but it just wouldn’t work. I took the gun and racked the slide and the round came out. Turns out it was a bad primer and he didn’t know you could cycle the round out by hand. After talking to him for a bit I found out they were new shooters and this was there first outing with there first gun. I told them to have fun and stay safe.


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Oh my. Well good on you for teaching something new and probably lifting a worry off that guy's shoulders.

[knightsofround]

[OCEquestrian]

I'm at the range a few days ago and the lane next to me had one guy and 2 ladies in it, new shooters all by the looks of it.

The guy pops the hangar at 7 yards and after a moments hesitation, proceeds to KEEP SHOOTING. He pops the hanger again and a I feel the slight sting of a bullet fragment zipping off my shoulder.

Insanity; doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

I haven't popped a hangar in a LONG time. Why TF would you keep shooting at the target when it's swinging about like a carnival ride?

I have NEVER shot a target hanger. Couldn't imagine showing my face again at anyplace where I had.

[Preston-CLB]

Hitting the target holder/hanger instead of hitting the paper.
-P

[followingc]

I saw someone shooting lights-out at my local range a couple weeks ago. Literally! Not only did they hit the hanger, but bullet fragments ricocheted up and shattered the 6-foot fluorescent light tube. The tube fell from the ceiling and shattered on the concrete floor.

[divingin]

I saw someone shooting lights-out at my local range a couple weeks ago. Literally! Not only did they hit the hanger, but bullet fragments ricocheted up and shattered the 6-foot fluorescent light tube. The tube fell from the ceiling and shattered on the concrete floor.

The range I shoot at is going to LED lighting for specifically that reason. They were spending over $1K per month on fluorescent tubes. The LED lights can take a hit and keep working.

One thing about shooters at public ranges is that there are varying goals. For me, it's trying to shoot as accurately and consistently as I can. Others are trying to learn/improve their marksmanship. And then there are a fairly large number of people who just want to make noise and feel recoil, and don't give a damn about what they do or don't hit (mostly don't.) Trying to teach the latter anything is pissing into the wind. They just don't care.

[rodralig]

And then there are a fairly large number of people who just want to make noise and feel recoil, and don't give a damn about what they do or don't hit (mostly don't.) Trying to teach the latter anything is pissing into the wind. They just don't care.

You forgot one thing - if you post about that on CalGuns, you'll get flamed for NOT MYOB.



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[B2D]

I have NEVER shot a target hanger. Couldn't imagine showing my face again at anyplace where I had.

I think I've only hit the target hangar once like 15 years ago when I was a brand new shooter. Yeah it was pretty embarrassing, even though I hit it with a .22.

[B2D]

I saw someone shooting lights-out at my local range a couple weeks ago. Literally! Not only did they hit the hanger, but bullet fragments ricocheted up and shattered the 6-foot fluorescent light tube. The tube fell from the ceiling and shattered on the concrete floor.

Were you at a certain range in Laguna Niguel? That exact same thing happened a few weeks ago right before I came in. They hadn't called a cease-fire to clean it up yet.

[followingc]

Were you at a certain range in Laguna Niguel? That exact same thing happened a few weeks ago right before I came in. They hadn't called a cease-fire to clean it up yet.

As a matter of fact, yes! That was it. At least they didn't have to shut down the lane like they do when somebody shoots the cable. Yep, I've seen that too!

[B2D]

As a matter of fact, yes! That was it. At least they didn't have to shut down the lane like they do when somebody shoots the cable. Yep, I've seen that too!

I was there that day! Yeah what a mess that was.

[divingin]

You forgot one thing - if you post about that on CalGuns, you'll get flamed for NOT MYOB.
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As opposed to telling people to directly confront people doing it? How is that MYOB?

[rodralig]

As opposed to telling people to directly confront people doing it? How is that MYOB?

Shooter with his girl was doing rapid fire to a 5-yard target (rapid fire for that range is also prohibited). Hits were erratic, which makes it worrisome since his lane was beside the wall. I tried warning him just as I saw the RSO coming from the corner of my eye. All I got from the shooter was backlash.

And here in CG? Along with a few flames, the consensus of the vocal majority was I should have just kept quiet...

So - I learned my lesson...

1. Unless someone approaches me for some help, I do nothing.
2. If I feel unsafe for what another shooter is doing, either leave the range or tell the RSO.
3. If you are going to "violate" #2 above - do not post your story to CalGuns.

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