Unregistered

[pacrat]

Ownership of a firearm that is currently registered to another person is an ACTIVE CRIME.
They don't need the father's statement that he gave it to him X number of years ago, they have the records saying that it currently BELONGS TO THE FATHER.

So, right back at ya on the "stupidest post" comment.

Pardon me, but I never used the word "stupid". Big diff between "stupid" and "ignorant". Which defines as, 'a lack of knowledge". If you persist with your present "REALITY DENIAL". I may be forced to agree with your choice of words.

No, but it's still registered in his father's name, if bought it new in the 80's. I thought the reg system for new purchases went back to 1980 (or earlier). Transfer recording started in '91.

If OP was still a child in '91 then it's required that the registered firearm be transferred to him so he is the new registered owner. That was my only point, if I'm incorrect on this I apologize.

As to bolded.....GO BACK AND READ THE OP.....especially this part.

he told me he never registered them.

And it still doesn't matter how old OP was, or when OP was given the guns. Or if they were registered or not. AS LONG AS IT WAS MORE THAN 3 YRS AGO.

Even if Dad stole the guns, then gave them to OP 10 yrs ago. The theft, [possible felony] if valued over $450 at time of theft. With a mandated, by statute, 7yr SOL. Still neither OP or DAD could be charged with a crime AT THIS TIME.

IF, the owner 30+ yrs ago reported them stolen. Then they could be confiscated and returned to them. But NO CRIMINAL CHARGES CAN BE PROSECUTED.

And your "WHAT ABOUT", CCW obsfucatory deflection. Has zero to do with OP's situation or his question.

Making definitively ignorant posts in response to honest questions. Only serves to confuse the facts the questioner is trying to find.

This seems to be another instance where Good Ole Abe Lincoln was spot on.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest.

Apology accepted, as long as you desist posting FUD, then claiming, FUD is FACT.

[TheGood]

If his father purchased them NEW then the pistol was registered. If it was bought NEW in CA and then stolen, it would still be registered to someone else. In any case, the gun is not registered to the OP. Depending on OP's age that -could- be an issue with possession. If you were born after 1970 (IIRC the law was 21YO for handguns in 1991) there isn't a handgun you can be in possession of without it being registered to you, because transfer laws were in place before you had the ability to buy/own. Get it?

[Ryan_N1989]

so attempt to register them and if i get into legal trouble hire a lawyer?

i'm more worried about the .22 mag Single Six, since it is a handgun

[Ryan_N1989]

Also would a gun shop have knowledge about this? would they have to report possible unregistered owner if i were to ask?

[SanDiego619]

Also would a gun shop have knowledge about this? would they have to report possible unregistered owner if i were to ask?

No just call and ask, or go in and ask and don't tell them your name, and run away if they ask too many questions

[Librarian]

Also would a gun shop have knowledge about this? would they have to report possible unregistered owner if i were to ask?

Gun shops have a deserved reputation for NOT knowing things.

Again, registration is not required - entirely legal to own one or many guns not known to the State.

[redcliff]

OP is there a certain answer you are looking for that coincides with what you intend to do regardless?

We've told you to file the Intrafamilial form and provided the link. We've told you that not being the registered owner on a DOJ record is not an issue.

Owning a handgun that is not registered to you is not a crime. Illegally carrying concealed is a crime even if the handgun is registered to you but is a felony if it is illegally carried concealed and not registered to you.

My advice as a long time California gun owner and former FFL holder is submit the Intrafamilial transfer form and worry about other things in your life.

[ar15barrels]

so attempt to register them and if i get into legal trouble hire a lawyer?

i'm more worried about the .22 mag Single Six, since it is a handgun

It's very unlikely you would get in trouble while registering a firearm unless you are a prohibited person.
The DOJ probably does a background check as part of the registration application and as long as you come back clean, they will recognize you are trying to "do right".
You are way way way over-thinking this.

Give the gun back to your dad and have him give it to you again and then do an OP-LAW form and be done with it.

[ar15barrels]

OP is there a certain answer you are looking for that coincides with what you intend to do regardless?

It sure feels like that.

[SanDiego619]

Op: tell us what you intend to do, then we will say "that's a good idea" so you feel better. Unless you say you're gonna give them up at a gun buyback. Then we will say NO NO NO!

[DB>]

Did "dad" buy these out of the trunk of a car from a guy named "Joe Smith" or something?!

Why is there so much concern about whether they are "legal" or not - it seems fairly unlikely if "dad" acquired them at a store or from a legit source that there would be any problem running through the interfamily transfer if you want to keep 'em. Or if not, "dad" can do a PPT to someone who does want to give them a loving home instead of turning them in to be "euthanized".....

If for some reason they come back as "stolen" they would probably be confiscated, but I doubt you'd get arrested.... statute of limitations and it's under $950, pretty much a slap on the wrist in CA....

[The Gleam]

Quit yappin' and just hurry up and get it over with.

[Ryan_N1989]

First off I would like to thank everyone for the assistance and information, I think I will attempt to register them and see what happens, if necessary I will hire a lawyer if I need legal council

[pacrat]

First off I would like to thank everyone for the assistance and information, I think I will attempt to register them and see what happens, if necessary I will hire a lawyer if I need legal council

Good choice, unfortunately you waited a bit to long to do so immediately. Unless you have a LGS that is remaining open.

Likely due to "posted made up nonsense" from those ignorant of the facts.

Now with this COVID-19 crap. All gun shops are closed. So you can't get an FSC .......[Firearms Safety Card]. Which is required.

Once this COVID crap is over.

Go to a gunshop and take the 30 question test. Pay the $25. Get the FSC. And file this form, which costs $19 for both guns.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf

BTW the form needs updating. HSC [handgun safety certificate] and FSC [firearm safety certificate] are synonymous. So put the FSC in the spot for HSC on the form.

[Ryan_N1989]

Good choice, unfortunately you waited a bit to long to do so immediately. Unless you have a LGS that is remaining open.

Likely due to "posted made up nonsense" from those ignorant of the facts.

Now with this COVID-19 crap. All gun shops are closed. So you can't get an FSC .......[Firearms Safety Card]. Which is required.

Once this COVID crap is over.

Go to a gunshop and take the 30 question test. Pay the $25. Get the FSC. And file this form, which costs $19 for both guns.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf

BTW the form needs updating. HSC [handgun safety certificate] and FSC [firearm safety certificate] are synonymous. So put the FSC in the spot for HSC on the form.

That's my plan, thank you for the info on FSC and HSC I thought I had to get 2