Glock 21 or 19?

[Harbinger]

Besides, a decent defensive 9mm round mushrooms to the size of a .45 anyways. And the military prefers the .45 because they're not allowed to use hollow points.

As to the .45 thumpers, I have yet to have one agree to stand downrange of my 9mm with 16 rounds of Winchester Rangers, though I've asked many times...

I think you hit the nail on the head. Winchester SXT 147gr 9mm creates a wound channel like .45 (or greater), and penetrates 18"+. That's what I keep loaded in my G17 in the nightstand for things that go bump in the night.

Oh, and the Mrs. will be getting a G19 ASAP. :-D

Mike

[DrjonesUSA]

It always comes down to shot placement, but after a bit of training, I can shoot my 1911 as well as my XD-9. If you're going to be practicing, and devoting time to learning the gun, pick up whatever you want. If you want a gun that you (and almost anyone else) will be able to shoot, get a 9mm.

There is no reason why any person without significant physical handicaps can not learn to effectively shoot a .45 caliber handgun.

I've taken many women to the range who have never shot before and have had them shooting extremely well with a .45, after introducing them to shooting with a .22, of course.

Besides, a decent defensive 9mm round mushrooms to the size of a .45 anyways. And the military prefers the .45 because they're not allowed to use hollow points.

1) If "the military prefers the .45", why did they switch to the M9, which is of course a 9mm pistol?

2) A 9mm may expand, but a .45 will never shrink.

As to the .45 thumpers, I have yet to have one agree to stand downrange of my 9mm with 16 rounds of Winchester Rangers, though I've asked many times...

This is a positively ridiculous "argument":

I wouldn't agree to stand downrange from a BB gun, paintball gun, or even an airsoft gun, but that fact most certainly does not mean that I would recommend any of those for home defense!!

Edit: Wait a minute, why are you getting a pistol for home defense?! Pick up an 870 loaded with a game load and 00 buckshot! Handguns are no where NEAR as effective as shotguns and rifles are!

Absolutely!!!

[BossHog]

The caliber and grip size of the G21 work well for me.

[randy]

Fat is where it's at when it comes to bullets and .45's are pretty portly.

In school the teacher taught us 5, 9's are .45.

I'd go with .45 over 9mm but I would take the 19 over the 21. Maybe I've missed it but I don't recall problems with the 19 I've heard of and seen problems with the 21. LAPD stopped using 21's for awhile because of bad parts they were getting light hits, this was about 3 months ago.

[rkt88edmo]

Maybe I've missed it but I don't recall problems with the 19 I've heard of and seen problems with the 21. LAPD stopped using 21's for awhile because of bad parts they were getting light hits, this was about 3 months ago.

Check glocktalk for the LRN or last round nosedive.