Proper Purchase Etiquette

[SomeGuy75]

Isn't it obvious? You pay outside and the guy walks. You're SOL!

This was my first thought too. But to take it one step further, if you accept payment in the parking lot, technically you just sold a gun without the appropriate paperwork. I believe that means you just committed a felony. An anti 2a judge would have no issue with throwing you in jail. The “But we were going to do paperwork” argument probably wouldn’t save you.

When I PPT as a seller, I will accept payment immediately after paperwork is completed by the buyer, but before I sign as a seller. I have no problem with the buyer inspecting the firearm before we enter the FFL.

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

Man And I thought I was hard to deal with. I have no issue with paying a guy in the lot, I do look at itrader ratings when I buy on here as most do and haven't met anyone so far that I didn't enjoy talking with. I get the legalities of looking at the gun in the parking lot but maybe up here things are different than down south, I am usually very discreet about it and have never been truly worried about leo or anything. I have a preferred shop for PPT and they don't care about the exchange inside I found out after my last PPT there. That does make it easier. I have been to shops where they make it downright painful to do PPT so making the transaction outside before hand doesn't seem out of place. If one was so worried about doing it outside and paying outside it just seems like adding to the headache CA already makes for us. I am planning a PPT this week with another gunner here and I am looking forward to it. with only a few texts between us he seems like a nice guy and very easy to deal with. I guess if I had a point to this post it would be to maybe be more flexible, its good to have principles but for me so far all of the guys I have met from this board at a PPT have been flexible and easy going. I haven't yet had to say wait a minute I wont do that to any of them.

[2IDUSARMY]

[splithoof]

As far as the FFL looking the weapon over, I think that is wise, if for only the purpose of making sure that the FFL isn't allowing something in his shop that may be obviously illegal. For example, if I were to meet a seller at the shop, and he walks in with a short-barreled rifle that he has no papers for, that could be a real problem. Or some type of illegal "assault weapon". While the seller could be genuinely ignorant of the legality of what he has, the FFL rightfully may not want that weapon in his shop. In that case, he tells them to leave.

[MyOdessa]

If you don't trust seller to give him money before paperwork is done, why should seller trust you to pay after the paperwork is done?
Once it is done, the gun belongs to you and the only recourse seller has to get paid, is to sue you for money.
In all my PPT, money and inspections were done in parking lot. One of us got paid and the other carried the gun, we both walked in the store to complete paperwork.

[edgerly779]

Someguy wrong. No firearm has changed hands where did that BS come from. No transaction has occurred till dros started with ffl. You can inspect in parking lot without displaying firearm lots of fud on here.

[bohoki]

the store should only check to see if it is unloaded it is a slight imposition to use the store as a neutral inspection site and any inspection taking over 2 minutes would be a major imposition

if i was a gun store owner i would not want someone taking it apart while i am filling out/watching seller do paperwork

[Wordupmybrotha]

- FFL has no business inspecting the gun other than to check that it's unloaded.
- FFL has no business commenting, "Nice gun" or asking how much I paid for it. Although, more than a few have done so.
- No problem buyer inspecting the gun in the parking lot. I prefer this. No reason to impose on the FFL's time.
- I prefer to exchange money BEFORE walking into the FFL. Have exchanged money inside the FFL plenty of times, but I prefer doing it before.
- If I'm the seller, I get the money BEFORE we start the paperwork. I do the same when I'm the buyer.

[2IDUSARMY]

- FFL has no business inspecting the gun other than to check that it's unloaded.
- FFL has no business commenting, "Nice gun" or asking how much I paid for it. Although, more than a few have done so.
- No problem buyer inspecting the gun in the parking lot. I prefer this. No reason to impose on the FFL's time.
- I prefer to exchange money BEFORE walking into the FFL. Have exchanged money inside the FFL plenty of times, but I prefer doing it before.
- If I'm the seller, I get the money BEFORE we start the paperwork. I do the same when I'm the buyer.

That's your opinion. You ain't getting my money in the parking lot. Buyer fills out the paperwork first anyway. Nothing happens until the seller signs. Prior to that you exchange money. It's a two way transaction, both parties need to be comfortable with it.

[Wordupmybrotha]

That's your opinion. You ain't getting my money in the parking lot. Buyer fills out the paperwork first anyway. Nothing happens until the seller signs. Prior to that you exchange money. It's a two way transaction, both parties need to be comfortable with it.

I guess we're not doing business then.

[SarcoBlaster]

I guess we're not doing business then.

[Wordupmybrotha]

I started this thread because I had an unreasonable seller demanding that I inspect the gun in the parking lot and pay him prior to walking in the shop.

You're the one who's unreasonable.
It's the crazy person thinking everyone else is crazy.

I have a feeling the OP has made it onto quite a few members’ “do not do business with” lists.

[AtomicOrange]

I will inspect a firearm outside, discreetly, but prefer to do so inside the shop, so no passersby get "triggered" and they or other business owners get nervous and call the authorities. And, no money changes hands until IDs are on the counter. Period.

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[lordmorgul]